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<blockquote data-quote="NoSVT's4me" data-source="post: 9809431" data-attributes="member: 6945"><p>Did ANYONE claim that 9 second pass was at full weight? I didn't see it if they did. We all know certain parts drop weight. Bogarts are a favorite, but may not be the lightest wheels available... they just ARE available. Skinnies aren't so much about weight reduction... They're about weight TRANSFER and friction reduction every bit as much as weight reduction itself, if not more. You could get 6" wheels which are still light, but allow more drag.. friction and loss of transfer...</p><p></p><p>What the C4 did was possibly huge, but not for weight so much either. The goal there is to use a transmission that works well. I don't even like them, but it ain't my car...</p><p></p><p>I've seen cars run more than 150mph on a C4, by the way. One even weighed 3350 lb in the process. As if that wasn't enough, it only had a 309ci engine.</p><p></p><p>A 250 shot is required to gain 17mph with a C4? On WHICH planet? On the one where I live, a 250 shot may increase mph by just a little OR a bunch. The transmission itself has little to do with it, as long as it's properly built and not real heavy. A lighter trans would likely help more, not less. C4's are light in my book. For example, my car gained 8-15mph(depending on launch) on a 100-125 shot... with a C4.. AND with a T-5 AND with an AOD... the same car, with the 408 rather than the 308 ran faster without nitrous than the 308 did WITH nitrous... through the same two automatics AND with a C6... Heavy? You betcha. Nitrous still bumped the speed by more than 20mph over that, even with the C4 and C6... That was a 200 hit. ENGINE MATTERS! My 408 was built for nitrous. My 308 was just "built" for fun. </p><p></p><p>There are far more factors here than you seem to think. You don't just slap a 250-300 shot on an engine and "know" what the mph will be, let alone with a any given transmission. Every part of that engine can make a difference, good or bad. I'm thinking you've never had a nitrous assisted car, to be honest.</p><p></p><p>You may have several clues about the LS series engine. A Ford transmission guy, you're NOT! :bash:</p><p></p><p>2 more things... stock short block LSx cars have held 250 for 100's of passes.. er... bottles, but not LS1 aluminum engines, right? I think you're confused about that as well... I have NO idea what an engine would look like after 100 BOTTLES of nitrous, at a 200 shot, were used... I don't think it would be pretty though, unless we meant "pretty ugly." I PROMISE YOU that NO LS ANYTHING stock short block has seen 100 bottles of nitrous at a 250 shot and survived, or are you talking about a sneaky pete bottle here??? It just isn't happening unless it's like the LS9, but without the blower... FORGED...</p><p></p><p>And... we know it held because we saw the video.. Don't know about a back up pass(although I heard it went 10.02 or close), but it made one without blowing up, which is proof it held together. That said, I'd also be TOTALLY shocked to find it was a 300 shot... If it was, WAY TO GO, FOMOCO! GM fans only DREAM Chevy would offer such an engine in stock form... As far as I'm concerned, the very same is to be said about Ford fans. 300 on FACTORY internals? I can't bloody tell...:lol1:</p><p></p><p>Bottom line: It RAN in the 9's...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NoSVT's4me, post: 9809431, member: 6945"] Did ANYONE claim that 9 second pass was at full weight? I didn't see it if they did. We all know certain parts drop weight. Bogarts are a favorite, but may not be the lightest wheels available... they just ARE available. Skinnies aren't so much about weight reduction... They're about weight TRANSFER and friction reduction every bit as much as weight reduction itself, if not more. You could get 6" wheels which are still light, but allow more drag.. friction and loss of transfer... What the C4 did was possibly huge, but not for weight so much either. The goal there is to use a transmission that works well. I don't even like them, but it ain't my car... I've seen cars run more than 150mph on a C4, by the way. One even weighed 3350 lb in the process. As if that wasn't enough, it only had a 309ci engine. A 250 shot is required to gain 17mph with a C4? On WHICH planet? On the one where I live, a 250 shot may increase mph by just a little OR a bunch. The transmission itself has little to do with it, as long as it's properly built and not real heavy. A lighter trans would likely help more, not less. C4's are light in my book. For example, my car gained 8-15mph(depending on launch) on a 100-125 shot... with a C4.. AND with a T-5 AND with an AOD... the same car, with the 408 rather than the 308 ran faster without nitrous than the 308 did WITH nitrous... through the same two automatics AND with a C6... Heavy? You betcha. Nitrous still bumped the speed by more than 20mph over that, even with the C4 and C6... That was a 200 hit. ENGINE MATTERS! My 408 was built for nitrous. My 308 was just "built" for fun. There are far more factors here than you seem to think. You don't just slap a 250-300 shot on an engine and "know" what the mph will be, let alone with a any given transmission. Every part of that engine can make a difference, good or bad. I'm thinking you've never had a nitrous assisted car, to be honest. You may have several clues about the LS series engine. A Ford transmission guy, you're NOT! :bash: 2 more things... stock short block LSx cars have held 250 for 100's of passes.. er... bottles, but not LS1 aluminum engines, right? I think you're confused about that as well... I have NO idea what an engine would look like after 100 BOTTLES of nitrous, at a 200 shot, were used... I don't think it would be pretty though, unless we meant "pretty ugly." I PROMISE YOU that NO LS ANYTHING stock short block has seen 100 bottles of nitrous at a 250 shot and survived, or are you talking about a sneaky pete bottle here??? It just isn't happening unless it's like the LS9, but without the blower... FORGED... And... we know it held because we saw the video.. Don't know about a back up pass(although I heard it went 10.02 or close), but it made one without blowing up, which is proof it held together. That said, I'd also be TOTALLY shocked to find it was a 300 shot... If it was, WAY TO GO, FOMOCO! GM fans only DREAM Chevy would offer such an engine in stock form... As far as I'm concerned, the very same is to be said about Ford fans. 300 on FACTORY internals? I can't bloody tell...:lol1: Bottom line: It RAN in the 9's... [/QUOTE]
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