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2011 Mustang: Where does it fall?
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 9254070" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>The article also talks about how the rods are the weak link in the motor, and how they won't support really any extra power over the current rods. Yes the GT500 rods are strong without being expensive Manly H-Beam rods so give the new 5.0 a similar rod.</p><p></p><p>If they had to target a budget to produce a motor that cost X amount of money to build then why spend it on headers that only give them 6 more HP when you could throw the money saved on the headers into building stronger rods. In "Iron Fist, Lead Foot" J Colleti says that the older N/A Cobra rods cost about $11 apiece for Ford to produce whereas the Manley rods cost them about $56 apiece. I'm pretty sure GT500 rods cost Ford quite abit less than the Manley rods, but at the same time they're still very stout.</p><p></p><p>Lets assume that it cost $20 apiece for Ford to produce a manifold. That would mean it would be $60 apiece for them to produce a header if what the article says is correct about then cost 3x more to build than regular manifolds. So if they went with manifolds that would save them $80 a motor and they could of thrown that into better rods.</p><p></p><p>The guy that developed the motor said that its HP potential isn't much greater than it is stock because of the rods not being up to the task of handling much more power. Thats terrible for Mustang enthusiasts because to a great majority of us part of owning a Mustang is to mod more HP out of it, and most Mustangs are cheap cars, and most of their owners can't afford to buy the lastest new Mustang because they want the awesome new motor, and then afford to do some expensive rebuild because they want to be able to up the power on it.</p><p></p><p>Don't get me wrong I think this motors great, and I'm very excited about it, but I'd rather mod headers than have to do a rebuild so that I could start bringing out some of the motors potential. According to the article 2011 Mustang owners can pretty much forget about throwing a Vortech and 8 psi or a 100 shot at this motor on a factory bottomend. Its not just that N/A Mustang rods won't handle much boost its that they won't handle much HP.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 9254070, member: 51847"] The article also talks about how the rods are the weak link in the motor, and how they won't support really any extra power over the current rods. Yes the GT500 rods are strong without being expensive Manly H-Beam rods so give the new 5.0 a similar rod. If they had to target a budget to produce a motor that cost X amount of money to build then why spend it on headers that only give them 6 more HP when you could throw the money saved on the headers into building stronger rods. In "Iron Fist, Lead Foot" J Colleti says that the older N/A Cobra rods cost about $11 apiece for Ford to produce whereas the Manley rods cost them about $56 apiece. I'm pretty sure GT500 rods cost Ford quite abit less than the Manley rods, but at the same time they're still very stout. Lets assume that it cost $20 apiece for Ford to produce a manifold. That would mean it would be $60 apiece for them to produce a header if what the article says is correct about then cost 3x more to build than regular manifolds. So if they went with manifolds that would save them $80 a motor and they could of thrown that into better rods. The guy that developed the motor said that its HP potential isn't much greater than it is stock because of the rods not being up to the task of handling much more power. Thats terrible for Mustang enthusiasts because to a great majority of us part of owning a Mustang is to mod more HP out of it, and most Mustangs are cheap cars, and most of their owners can't afford to buy the lastest new Mustang because they want the awesome new motor, and then afford to do some expensive rebuild because they want to be able to up the power on it. Don't get me wrong I think this motors great, and I'm very excited about it, but I'd rather mod headers than have to do a rebuild so that I could start bringing out some of the motors potential. According to the article 2011 Mustang owners can pretty much forget about throwing a Vortech and 8 psi or a 100 shot at this motor on a factory bottomend. Its not just that N/A Mustang rods won't handle much boost its that they won't handle much HP. [/QUOTE]
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