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2012 Ecoboost Raptor is it going to happen
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<blockquote data-quote="Jroc" data-source="post: 10581104" data-attributes="member: 51847"><p>First off you want a cookie? I tell you what you send me your mother ****ing address and I will send you a god damn cookie. You got the blue truck thing right! Lets just toot your ****ing horn some more. If there's two identical vehicles with different motors and the one making less torque, and much less power is the faster one then somethings up. </p><p></p><p>Quit being a BS'er. First the 5.4 is a POS that can't tow worth a damn, and now that my truck tows just fine so does your 5.4? Just go on with that BS.</p><p></p><p>Oh and no the Ecoboost doesn't impress me as being faster than a 6.2 when a 6,200 lb crew cab AWD HD will run a 15.1 at over 92 MPH.</p><p></p><p>Your points are stupid as hell. What do you mean I'm against OHC's? I drive a truck with a OHC motor. No trucks don't have to have OHV motors. What a dumb argument you present. </p><p></p><p>Are you into SRT4's, EVO's, MazdaSpeed 3's, and other I4 turbo vehicles? If not why not? I mean mofo's always bust on SRT4 saying they're still Neons or whatever. Well guess what they'll also run pretty damn good so maybe we should just all get a hard on for the car. When talking fullsize trucks, and performance car Mustangs I don't like v6's in any forum. I don't like the #6 because I'm not a Satanist, I don't like how those POS motors sound, I don't like 60 degree motors, and I don't like how my Ford worked hard to make it out perform the v8's.(which they did) Don't you see what Fords trying to do here? Ford wants the Ecoboost to eclipse the v8's is sells so much so they will be able to drop the v8's from the F150's lineup in a few years. Trust me I've seen it happen before.</p><p></p><p>If you spend $10K to just throw a blower on a F150 then you're a butt f'in moron. If you spend $7,000 you better have gotten a nice exhaust setup, CAI, and tune at the least to go along with the blower for that price.</p><p></p><p>Again what you find impressive is not that impressive to me. Yes it makes good #'s and it performs alright. It's a boosted DOHC motor running 17 psi in a motor that Ford worked real hard to make it do a good job. WTF do you expect?</p><p></p><p>Your knowledge of a 5.4 doesn't impress me, and I don't give a damn how your truck performs. I said if Ford wanted to build a 5.4 better/stronger motor than the Ecoboost it would easily happen. If you can't admit then you're an idiot. Get over yourself. You act like I'm trying to school you on what 5.4's are capable of and that offends you because you're just the man when it comes to 5.4's when I'm just stating a fact. I've owned Modular vehicles for a long/long time and even if they were 4.6's they are just a 5.4 with a shorter stroke, and deck height. Hell Ford could build a 4.6 to be a much stronger truck motor than the Ecoboost if they throw a couple of snails at it. Boost is an amazing thing.</p><p></p><p>You are just too stubborn to admit that Ford is going to hold much higher restrictions about people modding Ecoboost motors. Do you not understand that the guy saying that tunes Ford for a living? That's his job. I've never been scared that Ford would void a warranty over just a tune on any Mustang I've had. Now if they can prove that you've upped the boost, and done some substantial mods then yes you're screwed, but with the Ecoboost already being push pretty hard from the factory Fords not stupid enough to say "yeah lets make this a little tuner motor for enthusiasts." It's a cast motor, and it's running up to 17 psi. What other V type gas motors do you know of that run all that much more than 17 psi on pump gas? When you get to around 20/21 PSI you start to think E85/race gas range. If I got a new GT or GT500 I wouldn't fret over just getting a tune to void my warranty. In a v8 vehicle they sell if they tried to void my warranty over just a tune then we would have a big problem, but if Ford is straight up telling Ecoboost owners through tune shops that they will not cover their cars if they get them tuned then that is expected.</p><p></p><p>My old Cobra's heads flow well enough to make that power, and much, much, much more without ever even breaking the valve covers. Hell people have made that much and more with just a TS blower on the Terminators little 4.6's. Stock longblock Terminator motors have made upwards of 1,300 whp on boost alone. 2v Modulars heads are poor flowing no matter how you try and sell it. I've had several 2v Modulars.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jroc, post: 10581104, member: 51847"] First off you want a cookie? I tell you what you send me your mother ****ing address and I will send you a god damn cookie. You got the blue truck thing right! Lets just toot your ****ing horn some more. If there's two identical vehicles with different motors and the one making less torque, and much less power is the faster one then somethings up. Quit being a BS'er. First the 5.4 is a POS that can't tow worth a damn, and now that my truck tows just fine so does your 5.4? Just go on with that BS. Oh and no the Ecoboost doesn't impress me as being faster than a 6.2 when a 6,200 lb crew cab AWD HD will run a 15.1 at over 92 MPH. Your points are stupid as hell. What do you mean I'm against OHC's? I drive a truck with a OHC motor. No trucks don't have to have OHV motors. What a dumb argument you present. Are you into SRT4's, EVO's, MazdaSpeed 3's, and other I4 turbo vehicles? If not why not? I mean mofo's always bust on SRT4 saying they're still Neons or whatever. Well guess what they'll also run pretty damn good so maybe we should just all get a hard on for the car. When talking fullsize trucks, and performance car Mustangs I don't like v6's in any forum. I don't like the #6 because I'm not a Satanist, I don't like how those POS motors sound, I don't like 60 degree motors, and I don't like how my Ford worked hard to make it out perform the v8's.(which they did) Don't you see what Fords trying to do here? Ford wants the Ecoboost to eclipse the v8's is sells so much so they will be able to drop the v8's from the F150's lineup in a few years. Trust me I've seen it happen before. If you spend $10K to just throw a blower on a F150 then you're a butt f'in moron. If you spend $7,000 you better have gotten a nice exhaust setup, CAI, and tune at the least to go along with the blower for that price. Again what you find impressive is not that impressive to me. Yes it makes good #'s and it performs alright. It's a boosted DOHC motor running 17 psi in a motor that Ford worked real hard to make it do a good job. WTF do you expect? Your knowledge of a 5.4 doesn't impress me, and I don't give a damn how your truck performs. I said if Ford wanted to build a 5.4 better/stronger motor than the Ecoboost it would easily happen. If you can't admit then you're an idiot. Get over yourself. You act like I'm trying to school you on what 5.4's are capable of and that offends you because you're just the man when it comes to 5.4's when I'm just stating a fact. I've owned Modular vehicles for a long/long time and even if they were 4.6's they are just a 5.4 with a shorter stroke, and deck height. Hell Ford could build a 4.6 to be a much stronger truck motor than the Ecoboost if they throw a couple of snails at it. Boost is an amazing thing. You are just too stubborn to admit that Ford is going to hold much higher restrictions about people modding Ecoboost motors. Do you not understand that the guy saying that tunes Ford for a living? That's his job. I've never been scared that Ford would void a warranty over just a tune on any Mustang I've had. Now if they can prove that you've upped the boost, and done some substantial mods then yes you're screwed, but with the Ecoboost already being push pretty hard from the factory Fords not stupid enough to say "yeah lets make this a little tuner motor for enthusiasts." It's a cast motor, and it's running up to 17 psi. What other V type gas motors do you know of that run all that much more than 17 psi on pump gas? When you get to around 20/21 PSI you start to think E85/race gas range. If I got a new GT or GT500 I wouldn't fret over just getting a tune to void my warranty. In a v8 vehicle they sell if they tried to void my warranty over just a tune then we would have a big problem, but if Ford is straight up telling Ecoboost owners through tune shops that they will not cover their cars if they get them tuned then that is expected. My old Cobra's heads flow well enough to make that power, and much, much, much more without ever even breaking the valve covers. Hell people have made that much and more with just a TS blower on the Terminators little 4.6's. Stock longblock Terminator motors have made upwards of 1,300 whp on boost alone. 2v Modulars heads are poor flowing no matter how you try and sell it. I've had several 2v Modulars. [/QUOTE]
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