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<blockquote data-quote="*TK*" data-source="post: 15736006" data-attributes="member: 48732"><p>Well with mini tubs you'll have to customize most 4 link systems out there. They're meant to bolt up to the stock frame rails, since tubs of any size in these classic mustangs require you to notch the frame rails to make the wheel wells bigger there is no getting around cutting up and customizing any 4 link you buy. There are a select few that do work better with tubs but they are far from a common bolt on and $$$.</p><p></p><p>The reason I went with Ridetech is simple really. The improved 4 link that Ridetech recently came out with, bolts/welds to 4 locations on the frame rails. Most all of the other cradles I've seen bolt/weld to the frame rails in only 2 locations and then triangulate a third mounting location in the center section of the rear seat subfloor where it's only a thin layer of structural floor. Then compounded with mounting the 4 link in this location the other systems then add even more stress to this small location on the subfloor by having the top 2 links for the rear end attach to this location. That adds a lot of weight and stress to a small portion of the subfloor, with time asking for serious problems. Many "good" shops will go in and strengthen the subfloor by adding material to prevent these problems. What it is essentially, is a design flaw that most of all the top companies imitated, including Ridetech.</p><p></p><p>Ridetech used to have the same setup, but only a short while ago completely re-engineered their 4 links to attach to the frame rails in four locations, not two. Adding A LOT more strength to their design. As of right now they're the only one doing it (as far as I've researched, and I've done a ton..) and it shows that their constantly improving the products they put out and are willing to completely re-engineer issues that others overlook or are unwilling to (R&D) spend money to change products that consumers continue to buy even though their products are subpar.</p><p></p><p>See the pictures below, red are the mounting locations of the 4 links, and green is where the top two links connect to the cradles. Notice the 3 point cradle that most other companies design attach to the subfloor instead of spanning out to attach to the frame rails, where the car is 10x stronger.</p><p></p><p>Ride tech cradle frame mounting locations in red, green-link bolting location on the cradle:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1442672[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>Installation on my car, only tac welded in place in this pic, it's since been permanently welded in:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1442673[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>This picture is of the TCP 4 link, which in my opinion is far inferior:</p><p>*disclaimer it has tabs in the front that mount to the rails as well, but most all of the weight and stress from the top two links is on the center rear subfloor*</p><p>[ATTACH=full]1442678[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Simply put, it is the best engineered 4 link on the market, regardless of price. However, please don't think TCP as a company is subpar, they make high quality products, many of which are still going into this build, however when it comes to the rear suspension Ridetech nails it with the better design. I hope this helps.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="*TK*, post: 15736006, member: 48732"] Well with mini tubs you'll have to customize most 4 link systems out there. They're meant to bolt up to the stock frame rails, since tubs of any size in these classic mustangs require you to notch the frame rails to make the wheel wells bigger there is no getting around cutting up and customizing any 4 link you buy. There are a select few that do work better with tubs but they are far from a common bolt on and $$$. The reason I went with Ridetech is simple really. The improved 4 link that Ridetech recently came out with, bolts/welds to 4 locations on the frame rails. Most all of the other cradles I've seen bolt/weld to the frame rails in only 2 locations and then triangulate a third mounting location in the center section of the rear seat subfloor where it's only a thin layer of structural floor. Then compounded with mounting the 4 link in this location the other systems then add even more stress to this small location on the subfloor by having the top 2 links for the rear end attach to this location. That adds a lot of weight and stress to a small portion of the subfloor, with time asking for serious problems. Many "good" shops will go in and strengthen the subfloor by adding material to prevent these problems. What it is essentially, is a design flaw that most of all the top companies imitated, including Ridetech. Ridetech used to have the same setup, but only a short while ago completely re-engineered their 4 links to attach to the frame rails in four locations, not two. Adding A LOT more strength to their design. As of right now they're the only one doing it (as far as I've researched, and I've done a ton..) and it shows that their constantly improving the products they put out and are willing to completely re-engineer issues that others overlook or are unwilling to (R&D) spend money to change products that consumers continue to buy even though their products are subpar. See the pictures below, red are the mounting locations of the 4 links, and green is where the top two links connect to the cradles. Notice the 3 point cradle that most other companies design attach to the subfloor instead of spanning out to attach to the frame rails, where the car is 10x stronger. Ride tech cradle frame mounting locations in red, green-link bolting location on the cradle: [ATTACH=full]1442672[/ATTACH] Installation on my car, only tac welded in place in this pic, it's since been permanently welded in: [ATTACH=full]1442673[/ATTACH] This picture is of the TCP 4 link, which in my opinion is far inferior: *disclaimer it has tabs in the front that mount to the rails as well, but most all of the weight and stress from the top two links is on the center rear subfloor* [ATTACH=full]1442678[/ATTACH] Simply put, it is the best engineered 4 link on the market, regardless of price. However, please don't think TCP as a company is subpar, they make high quality products, many of which are still going into this build, however when it comes to the rear suspension Ridetech nails it with the better design. I hope this helps. [/QUOTE]
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