99 cobra rich idle

Cobragixxer9994

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I have a 99 cobra with a vortech rich at idle about 13.4 to 13.8. Perfect afr 14.7 while cruising
Any ideas where to start


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You don't want 14.7 at WOT

What are you using gauge and sensor-wise?

Also, during cruise and idle it will bounce around a bit from 13-15 and it will go to like 20 when you're off the gas but in gear...and WOT should be like 11.5-12. Assuming you have a wideband sensor
 

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Sorry I swiped to type and didn't proofread before I posted
Wide band is autometer with Bosch sensor
It definitely does not go lean at idle and it smells very rich at idle
wot is 11.3 to 11.8
Cruising definitely stables more towards 14.7

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Sorry I swiped to type and didn't proofread before I posted
Wide band is autometer with Bosch sensor
It definitely does not go lean at idle and it smells very rich at idle
wot is 11.3 to 11.8
Cruising definitely stables more towards 14.7

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13.4-13.8 isn’t bad. Do you know what stoich is in the tune? If it’s set to 14.1 (to account for 10% ethanol fuel) that idle is pretty good.
 

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No cats and I am unsure what the stoich is set at
Am I just creating phantom problems for myself lol
cause the car has ran good for years

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Has the sensor been calibrated recently?

I think you are creating a problem that isn’t there but who knows. What do the fuel trims say at idle? If they are within 5-10% I wouldn’t worry about it at all.
 

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Did a live link log today not sure if all of this info matters
67f outside temp
Car coolant between 196 and 202 f
Stft bank 1 .97 to 1.00 fluctuating
Stft bank 2 .97 to 1.00 fluctuating
Ltft banks1 and 2 no change stays at 1.00
02 voltage bank 1 sensor 1 .09 to .93 average .75
02 voltage bank 2 sensor 1 .85 to .96 average .94
I think o2 sensor bank 2 sensor 1 is bad

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That does seem like a wide range for the bank 2 sensor. I would do the old school method of swapping sensors side to side and see if the readings follow. If they do you know it's the sensor. Or if it's been a while, throw new sensors in.
 

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They were done in 2016
I was stupid and I ran leaded fuel last year.
Possibly that screwed up the sensor.
If I'm gonna swap the sensors I might as well just replace them. There fairly cheap
$25 a piece for ntks

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Yea I wasn't thinking when I did it was free(friend was switching to e85)and my car had the race fuel smell lol.
So I think it's safe to say I should probably just change them.


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