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Anybody going to get a "Scat-Pack" R\T Challenger?
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<blockquote data-quote="ShiftyThePirate" data-source="post: 14497352" data-attributes="member: 163467"><p>Have you..driven a Camaro??..I've had the SS, driven the ZL1 (get a CTS-V for that price unless you are dumb), and just...unless you are buying in convertible, there is no point. Want a usable back-seat? Forget it, Get a Corvette, as it won't happen in the Camaro, Vett justifys no rear-seating, Camaro does not, friends above 5'3 are not going to be happy, one thing that stunned me was the convertible option (only way I'd get one) I test drove a GT-500 Convertible and the top went down within about 20-30 seconds, the Camaro...hold the button for 2-3 seconds after twisting that hard handle that you would assume belonged on a pressurized door in a submarine, 2-3 minutes later top would be down and sealed, I'd say honestly 4 minutes vs the 30-60 sec GT convertible, going from top up to down. </p><p></p><p>And Ford is boosting that the '15 GT will be 20% FASTER at lowering the convertible roof, which is just crazy considering how god-awful slow the Camaro convertible was. </p><p></p><p>Camaro IMO SUCKS at daily driving, the visibility is ridiculously bad. I agree the Camaro isn't a muscle as #1, it was designed by the Korean that now works with VW\Audi, Sang Yup Lee, who now actually works within a budget he can design good aggresive looks rather than smooshing everything down. Drive a Camaro, if you think with those tiny windows all around you + zero back-seat (once again, get a Vett) is remotely American designed, just :nono:</p><p></p><p>But no really, anyone who "loves" the Camaro, just go drive it, unless you are one short\small person you will hate it. My 6.1l SRT-8 w\ the 5-Speed ate the LS9 Versions and those who couldn't shift at all for breakfast as well (LS3 version). They just never impressed me and the new rear-end design killed it for me, seems like they threw in a bit of Volt in there. Space difference is beyond obvious though. Remember, Challenger is "like" the old school muscle cars, sedan turned into a 2-door (technically so is the Camaro as the platform is shared with the G8 Pontiac. I just find it weird Chevy\Ford haven't put in 8-speed trans to compete yet and Dodge is the only one using engine displacement right now to help them. </p><p></p><p>Also find it weird Ford in the auto-trim Ford used plus and minus buttons rather than paddle shifters or slap sticks to go through the gears...at least that is corrected for '15.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ShiftyThePirate, post: 14497352, member: 163467"] Have you..driven a Camaro??..I've had the SS, driven the ZL1 (get a CTS-V for that price unless you are dumb), and just...unless you are buying in convertible, there is no point. Want a usable back-seat? Forget it, Get a Corvette, as it won't happen in the Camaro, Vett justifys no rear-seating, Camaro does not, friends above 5'3 are not going to be happy, one thing that stunned me was the convertible option (only way I'd get one) I test drove a GT-500 Convertible and the top went down within about 20-30 seconds, the Camaro...hold the button for 2-3 seconds after twisting that hard handle that you would assume belonged on a pressurized door in a submarine, 2-3 minutes later top would be down and sealed, I'd say honestly 4 minutes vs the 30-60 sec GT convertible, going from top up to down. And Ford is boosting that the '15 GT will be 20% FASTER at lowering the convertible roof, which is just crazy considering how god-awful slow the Camaro convertible was. Camaro IMO SUCKS at daily driving, the visibility is ridiculously bad. I agree the Camaro isn't a muscle as #1, it was designed by the Korean that now works with VW\Audi, Sang Yup Lee, who now actually works within a budget he can design good aggresive looks rather than smooshing everything down. Drive a Camaro, if you think with those tiny windows all around you + zero back-seat (once again, get a Vett) is remotely American designed, just :nono: But no really, anyone who "loves" the Camaro, just go drive it, unless you are one short\small person you will hate it. My 6.1l SRT-8 w\ the 5-Speed ate the LS9 Versions and those who couldn't shift at all for breakfast as well (LS3 version). They just never impressed me and the new rear-end design killed it for me, seems like they threw in a bit of Volt in there. Space difference is beyond obvious though. Remember, Challenger is "like" the old school muscle cars, sedan turned into a 2-door (technically so is the Camaro as the platform is shared with the G8 Pontiac. I just find it weird Chevy\Ford haven't put in 8-speed trans to compete yet and Dodge is the only one using engine displacement right now to help them. Also find it weird Ford in the auto-trim Ford used plus and minus buttons rather than paddle shifters or slap sticks to go through the gears...at least that is corrected for '15. [/QUOTE]
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