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Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 15784014" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>At DBK, you just started assuming I’m dry drifting cars and slamming the sides of other people’s cars and spinning off track at some novice hpde thing. Ok I’m done. Sure you must be right. </p><p></p><p>No. I’m not. I’m driving street cars on street tires around closed circuit at private track day rentals, and at drift events as well as lots of canyon and B road time. I never said I’m Randy Phobst at Leguna Seca or any production car lap record holder for that matter. </p><p></p><p>And if you are honest with yourself you know that a street tire has to be exploited for fast laps. Not need for speed drifted, but exploited. Not every corner, but low speed corners, and on camber banked radius’ love a pitched start to get rotating. Call it a Scandinavian flick if you prefer top gear.</p><p></p><p>A race tire on a sticky car without suspension travel as in a ford GT, or even a gt350r isn’t gonna do much of what I was describing. It turns in pretty well on it’s own. I haven’t driven either of those but anyone who’s been on track could obviously get this.</p><p></p><p>I’m not talking about race cars with track tires. I’m talking about street cars with street tires.</p><p></p><p>Think STI’s, EVO’s and maybe base corvettes. I have piloted those on street tires as well as my 800-1200whp 03 cobra and my 275whp daily driver regal in closed performance events, drift, autos, and loads of canyon/ B road runs. </p><p></p><p>No I’m not trying he John Force of track days. Good god.</p><p></p><p>Facts though, you can’t get an STI or any front wheel drive car around a track quick on street tires without exploiting the tires. </p><p></p><p>Most factory rwd coupes and sporty cars like mustangs and Camaros asking like a little exploiting.</p><p></p><p>Having watched enough in car vids of hot laps at leguna and the Nurburgring, the best lap times and drivers exploit the tires on every street car they drive. Randy routinely flexes the tires at the cork screw and the final turn of leguna, and even sometimes on turn 1’s exit and turn 5, and just watch the test driver in the canary zl1 1le nurburgring run, he exploits 4 wheel drifts on a cup tire on damn near 15-20% of the track.</p><p></p><p>That said I don’t claim to be as good or close to that good, I just said I have more fun trying to drive like that than I do driving like a novice at a first timers hpde event. And manuals give me a lot more confidence personally to exploit a cars and tires balance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 15784014, member: 68944"] At DBK, you just started assuming I’m dry drifting cars and slamming the sides of other people’s cars and spinning off track at some novice hpde thing. Ok I’m done. Sure you must be right. No. I’m not. I’m driving street cars on street tires around closed circuit at private track day rentals, and at drift events as well as lots of canyon and B road time. I never said I’m Randy Phobst at Leguna Seca or any production car lap record holder for that matter. And if you are honest with yourself you know that a street tire has to be exploited for fast laps. Not need for speed drifted, but exploited. Not every corner, but low speed corners, and on camber banked radius’ love a pitched start to get rotating. Call it a Scandinavian flick if you prefer top gear. A race tire on a sticky car without suspension travel as in a ford GT, or even a gt350r isn’t gonna do much of what I was describing. It turns in pretty well on it’s own. I haven’t driven either of those but anyone who’s been on track could obviously get this. I’m not talking about race cars with track tires. I’m talking about street cars with street tires. Think STI’s, EVO’s and maybe base corvettes. I have piloted those on street tires as well as my 800-1200whp 03 cobra and my 275whp daily driver regal in closed performance events, drift, autos, and loads of canyon/ B road runs. No I’m not trying he John Force of track days. Good god. Facts though, you can’t get an STI or any front wheel drive car around a track quick on street tires without exploiting the tires. Most factory rwd coupes and sporty cars like mustangs and Camaros asking like a little exploiting. Having watched enough in car vids of hot laps at leguna and the Nurburgring, the best lap times and drivers exploit the tires on every street car they drive. Randy routinely flexes the tires at the cork screw and the final turn of leguna, and even sometimes on turn 1’s exit and turn 5, and just watch the test driver in the canary zl1 1le nurburgring run, he exploits 4 wheel drifts on a cup tire on damn near 15-20% of the track. That said I don’t claim to be as good or close to that good, I just said I have more fun trying to drive like that than I do driving like a novice at a first timers hpde event. And manuals give me a lot more confidence personally to exploit a cars and tires balance. [/QUOTE]
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