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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 15793318" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>Supercharger and cooling is 110lbs being liberal. Bigger brakes is a wash, material dependent. The real weight will come from the new nano coating to prevent rock chips and acid staining from zl1 and hellcat owners dust tails and shittalk if this car isn’t competitive but priced high like them.</p><p></p><p>Ford just isn’t going to do that. I just know it. They cant, they wouldn’t, its inconceivable! No Johny, no! Don’t sell out, don’t do it!!!!!!!!!</p><p></p><p>Right. Yeah, I’m not holding my breath. Then again it’s a business and people would still buy the car and they’d make more money, and people would just go aftermarket if they wanted to be faster. They are in a very strong position to put a simple blower setup together, on a known engine, with a cpc, and nice aero/chassis mods with an a10 option and some special leather/badges. It’ll hit the test numbers it needs, and the $75k price point will have lots of profitability, and only the fanboys will be slightly unmoved. Dodge and Chevy already paved this road. Simple base engine, decent boost setup, chassis and tech (cheap) adaption. Ford putting CF wheels on the gt350r was the last straw that broke the camels back in my opinion. That was a huge cost that probably ran the profits right out the window. The demand hit stratosphere mainly for things like that and the fpc, but be honest, no business can sustain that kind of a product development hurdle for limited production vehicles priced lower mid comfort area delivering highly premium options. Try producing and selling an oled tv priced half way of the oled market to get an example of my view point. Great for the customer but the shop will fail if there isn’t money made to continue growing the shop. Can’t buy fruit for a dollar and sell it for $1.05 regardless of volume. Inflation is 3% and competition grows, it doesn’t stagnate. A 2% profit is nothing. The company looks fine on paper but misses growth opportunity, and maintenance/repair, etc and slowly dies. Happens to many small businesses that don’t price growth and survival updates into their fixed costs. They just price rent/monthly/yearly bills and cogs and wages and call it a profit afterwards. </p><p></p><p>Ford has guaranteed strong sales on their hand. It’s a (uncool but very profitable) game plan to just wait 5 years and put out something to quell demand that is very profitable for them. They likely lost or broke even on gt350/R program, and have no desire to do that again.</p><p></p><p>At the least, they have put the car this far out just for the buying demand to swell back up. It’s easy to move 1000 or 3000 cars a year like a demon or zl1, but ford was moving 5-10,000+ halo mustangs a year at those prices, I can’t see them setting up to lose millions so as to win/keep the hearts and minds of enthusiasts.</p><p></p><p>They already have profits in the bag, and a 50mpg mandate within 7 years. Their hand is a tough one to play.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 15793318, member: 68944"] Supercharger and cooling is 110lbs being liberal. Bigger brakes is a wash, material dependent. The real weight will come from the new nano coating to prevent rock chips and acid staining from zl1 and hellcat owners dust tails and shittalk if this car isn’t competitive but priced high like them. Ford just isn’t going to do that. I just know it. They cant, they wouldn’t, its inconceivable! No Johny, no! Don’t sell out, don’t do it!!!!!!!!! Right. Yeah, I’m not holding my breath. Then again it’s a business and people would still buy the car and they’d make more money, and people would just go aftermarket if they wanted to be faster. They are in a very strong position to put a simple blower setup together, on a known engine, with a cpc, and nice aero/chassis mods with an a10 option and some special leather/badges. It’ll hit the test numbers it needs, and the $75k price point will have lots of profitability, and only the fanboys will be slightly unmoved. Dodge and Chevy already paved this road. Simple base engine, decent boost setup, chassis and tech (cheap) adaption. Ford putting CF wheels on the gt350r was the last straw that broke the camels back in my opinion. That was a huge cost that probably ran the profits right out the window. The demand hit stratosphere mainly for things like that and the fpc, but be honest, no business can sustain that kind of a product development hurdle for limited production vehicles priced lower mid comfort area delivering highly premium options. Try producing and selling an oled tv priced half way of the oled market to get an example of my view point. Great for the customer but the shop will fail if there isn’t money made to continue growing the shop. Can’t buy fruit for a dollar and sell it for $1.05 regardless of volume. Inflation is 3% and competition grows, it doesn’t stagnate. A 2% profit is nothing. The company looks fine on paper but misses growth opportunity, and maintenance/repair, etc and slowly dies. Happens to many small businesses that don’t price growth and survival updates into their fixed costs. They just price rent/monthly/yearly bills and cogs and wages and call it a profit afterwards. Ford has guaranteed strong sales on their hand. It’s a (uncool but very profitable) game plan to just wait 5 years and put out something to quell demand that is very profitable for them. They likely lost or broke even on gt350/R program, and have no desire to do that again. At the least, they have put the car this far out just for the buying demand to swell back up. It’s easy to move 1000 or 3000 cars a year like a demon or zl1, but ford was moving 5-10,000+ halo mustangs a year at those prices, I can’t see them setting up to lose millions so as to win/keep the hearts and minds of enthusiasts. They already have profits in the bag, and a 50mpg mandate within 7 years. Their hand is a tough one to play. [/QUOTE]
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