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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Anyone else frustrated with Ford over the next GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="GT Premi" data-source="post: 15856115" data-attributes="member: 121775"><p>I wouldn't say no one wanted the Z/28. It was just waaaay overpriced.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That seems more like an insecurity thing on your (and people who think like this) part. That aside, by show of hands, how many current GT500 owners in here are "scared" or intimidated by a ZL1 or Hellcat rolling up? I'm certainly not worried. And I bet most other GT500 owners aren't, either.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, Chevy did have the Avalanche before Ford had the Raptor. ;P Dodge has that Ram Rebel thing that's supposed to be in the Raptor's niche.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly! I don't give one whit about the ZL1 or Hellcat being faster in a straight line than my R. I don't want a straight-line-only car.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Deep discounts are good, but unless you plan on keeping the car for a LONG time, you're going to pay for on the back end when you're ready to sell/trade. I could probably take my R to a Chevy dealership right now, do a key swap, and walk away with no more car payments <em>and</em> an extra check. Why? Because the R is still worth a lot more than what ZL1s are selling for brand new. However, that's all irrelevant to me. I don't buy a car thinking about resale, unless it's something that I didn't really want in the first place. You were once a Mustang fan, and now you're still floating on the high of new ZL1 smell. I have a feeling that, when the GT500 comes out, you're going to be trying to unload that ZL1 for it. Don't be mad at the trade offers you get.</p><p></p><p>Concerning the track times of the ZL1 and R; it shouldn't even <em>be</em> a tossup between the two. All that extra power and torque, and the ZL1 eked out a 0.39 second advantage over the R on a non technical track. The ZL1 1LE's 1.81 advantage at Laguna Seca was probably gained mostly in the long sprint between turn 11 and turn 2. I'd like to see a head to head of the ZL1 1LE and the R at Big Willow; same day, same driver.</p><p></p><p>And no, the '18 GT is not faster than the GT350. The video you posted is with an '18 GT on wider-than-stock drag radials. And the GT was still barely faster <em>with</em> the 10-speed auto. I suspect there's going to be some disappointed '18 GT automatic owners when they try to roll race GT350s. Do you <em>really</em> think Ford is going to release a regular GT that performs on par with a GT350 while keeping the GT350 in production? The GT is more drag friendly than the GT350, and that's where it ends.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Never been proven same day, same driver. It just keeps getting repeated over and over in the Camaro camp.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mustang GTs are not specialty Mustangs, and there are no Boss 302S, 302R, or Cobra Jets roaming the streets. I get what you're trying to say, though. It still doesn't really matter. Look how many 911 variants Porsche pushes out constantly.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GT Premi, post: 15856115, member: 121775"] I wouldn't say no one wanted the Z/28. It was just waaaay overpriced. That seems more like an insecurity thing on your (and people who think like this) part. That aside, by show of hands, how many current GT500 owners in here are "scared" or intimidated by a ZL1 or Hellcat rolling up? I'm certainly not worried. And I bet most other GT500 owners aren't, either. Well, Chevy did have the Avalanche before Ford had the Raptor. ;P Dodge has that Ram Rebel thing that's supposed to be in the Raptor's niche. Exactly! I don't give one whit about the ZL1 or Hellcat being faster in a straight line than my R. I don't want a straight-line-only car. Deep discounts are good, but unless you plan on keeping the car for a LONG time, you're going to pay for on the back end when you're ready to sell/trade. I could probably take my R to a Chevy dealership right now, do a key swap, and walk away with no more car payments [i]and[/i] an extra check. Why? Because the R is still worth a lot more than what ZL1s are selling for brand new. However, that's all irrelevant to me. I don't buy a car thinking about resale, unless it's something that I didn't really want in the first place. You were once a Mustang fan, and now you're still floating on the high of new ZL1 smell. I have a feeling that, when the GT500 comes out, you're going to be trying to unload that ZL1 for it. Don't be mad at the trade offers you get. Concerning the track times of the ZL1 and R; it shouldn't even [i]be[/i] a tossup between the two. All that extra power and torque, and the ZL1 eked out a 0.39 second advantage over the R on a non technical track. The ZL1 1LE's 1.81 advantage at Laguna Seca was probably gained mostly in the long sprint between turn 11 and turn 2. I'd like to see a head to head of the ZL1 1LE and the R at Big Willow; same day, same driver. And no, the '18 GT is not faster than the GT350. The video you posted is with an '18 GT on wider-than-stock drag radials. And the GT was still barely faster [i]with[/i] the 10-speed auto. I suspect there's going to be some disappointed '18 GT automatic owners when they try to roll race GT350s. Do you [i]really[/i] think Ford is going to release a regular GT that performs on par with a GT350 while keeping the GT350 in production? The GT is more drag friendly than the GT350, and that's where it ends. Never been proven same day, same driver. It just keeps getting repeated over and over in the Camaro camp. Mustang GTs are not specialty Mustangs, and there are no Boss 302S, 302R, or Cobra Jets roaming the streets. I get what you're trying to say, though. It still doesn't really matter. Look how many 911 variants Porsche pushes out constantly. [/QUOTE]
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