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SVTPerformance's Chain of Restaurants
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Anyone ever file a complaint after being pulled over without suspected Probable Cause?
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<blockquote data-quote="cbj5259" data-source="post: 16290479" data-attributes="member: 75268"><p>First off a private business parking lot is not the same as a public roadway or area. Most shopping centers hand over enforcement authority to the local police through ordinance. Its the reason police can write handicap/firezone tickets, etc. It is still technically private property, and the police are acutely aware of the operation hours and trespassing postings at the shopping centers. Reasonable suspicion is about how a reasonable officer observing said action would feel given the same facts and totality of circumstances. Perhaps there have been past nighttime break ins at this location? Past trespassing complaints? All of these factors build toward the officers reasonable, articulable suspicion. Reasonable suspicion is evaluated using the "reasonable person" or "reasonable officer" standard, in which said person in the same circumstances could reasonably suspect a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity; it depends upon the the totality of the circumstances, and can result from a combination of particular facts, even if each is individually innocuous.</p><p></p><p>...and to your other point if you text and drive you have now handed the police actual probable cause to stop you based on an observed violation. The bottom line is that reasonable suspicion is that area that rests between a "hunch" and probable cause. It must be backed up with facts and information that lead the officer to believe that criminal activity MAY be afoot. Some of those facts and determining factors you, as the subject of the detention, may not have access to or be privy to. Listen...don't kill the messenger. I'm just telling what it is and how it's used and yes...if an officer can articulate why, based on the circumstances you were stopped in a business parking lot after hours...it will stick.It's not a requirement...its the minimum legal requirement (standard) that an officer needs to stop and briefly detain someone. It's not a policy, it's the accepted legal standard for every police officer in the US.See my above dissertation...</p><p></p><p>Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="cbj5259, post: 16290479, member: 75268"] First off a private business parking lot is not the same as a public roadway or area. Most shopping centers hand over enforcement authority to the local police through ordinance. Its the reason police can write handicap/firezone tickets, etc. It is still technically private property, and the police are acutely aware of the operation hours and trespassing postings at the shopping centers. Reasonable suspicion is about how a reasonable officer observing said action would feel given the same facts and totality of circumstances. Perhaps there have been past nighttime break ins at this location? Past trespassing complaints? All of these factors build toward the officers reasonable, articulable suspicion. Reasonable suspicion is evaluated using the "reasonable person" or "reasonable officer" standard, in which said person in the same circumstances could reasonably suspect a person has been, is, or is about to be engaged in criminal activity; it depends upon the the totality of the circumstances, and can result from a combination of particular facts, even if each is individually innocuous. ...and to your other point if you text and drive you have now handed the police actual probable cause to stop you based on an observed violation. The bottom line is that reasonable suspicion is that area that rests between a "hunch" and probable cause. It must be backed up with facts and information that lead the officer to believe that criminal activity MAY be afoot. Some of those facts and determining factors you, as the subject of the detention, may not have access to or be privy to. Listen...don't kill the messenger. I'm just telling what it is and how it's used and yes...if an officer can articulate why, based on the circumstances you were stopped in a business parking lot after hours...it will stick.It's not a requirement...its the minimum legal requirement (standard) that an officer needs to stop and briefly detain someone. It's not a policy, it's the accepted legal standard for every police officer in the US.See my above dissertation... Sent from my SM-N975U using Tapatalk [/QUOTE]
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