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Armed citizen stops potential mass shooter as Missouri Walmart
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<blockquote data-quote="Makobra" data-source="post: 16265220" data-attributes="member: 193575"><p>this is where jurisprudence of the average american (including LEO's) needs to be bolstered. some crimes require intent to be established as part of the crime. murder, for example, cannot be unintended. motive is required.</p><p></p><p>the law requires 2 things at least for this charge to stick. intent and disorder. you've assigned intent knowing nothing about the guy's motives and the only one pointing a gun at people is the guy holding him at gunpoint till the cops arrived.</p><p></p><p>so who REALLY caused the disturbance?</p><p></p><p>now, its it understandable? sure. is it illegal, not from what I can tell. how do you KNOW the guy wasn't kitted out just because he was feeling especially paranoid about these recent events?</p><p></p><p>any halfway decent lawyer would have a field day with this if they had any balls at all.</p><p></p><p>then you get people making more bullshit laws about like not being allowed to wear body armor or something like that in public.</p><p></p><p>all because some idiot decided he wanted to screw with another idiot who was probably more incompetent than malicious.</p><p></p><p>here's an idea. you see something like that just watch and if the guy moves to raise a weapon to do evil stop him with whatever force is necessary.</p><p></p><p>"yeah but that means we won't know he's gonna do bad stuff until he starts to do it"</p><p></p><p>uh yeah, that's what JUSTICE actually is. anything else is pre-crime bullshit taught by shitty academies teaching people with badges to constantly err on the side of safety. well guess what? liberty is scary. </p><p></p><p>that's why most countries don't have it.</p><p></p><p>God bless america #MAGA</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Makobra, post: 16265220, member: 193575"] this is where jurisprudence of the average american (including LEO's) needs to be bolstered. some crimes require intent to be established as part of the crime. murder, for example, cannot be unintended. motive is required. the law requires 2 things at least for this charge to stick. intent and disorder. you've assigned intent knowing nothing about the guy's motives and the only one pointing a gun at people is the guy holding him at gunpoint till the cops arrived. so who REALLY caused the disturbance? now, its it understandable? sure. is it illegal, not from what I can tell. how do you KNOW the guy wasn't kitted out just because he was feeling especially paranoid about these recent events? any halfway decent lawyer would have a field day with this if they had any balls at all. then you get people making more bullshit laws about like not being allowed to wear body armor or something like that in public. all because some idiot decided he wanted to screw with another idiot who was probably more incompetent than malicious. here's an idea. you see something like that just watch and if the guy moves to raise a weapon to do evil stop him with whatever force is necessary. "yeah but that means we won't know he's gonna do bad stuff until he starts to do it" uh yeah, that's what JUSTICE actually is. anything else is pre-crime bullshit taught by shitty academies teaching people with badges to constantly err on the side of safety. well guess what? liberty is scary. that's why most countries don't have it. God bless america #MAGA [/QUOTE]
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