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BMR vs WHITE LINE suspension
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<blockquote data-quote="WHITELINE" data-source="post: 13396854" data-attributes="member: 152008"><p>It seems like BMR and Whiteline tend to be compared to one another lately and although its easy to get caught up with brand loyalty.... the reality is we both do things well. Some products are better than others, others are more suitable for specific needs better than others. We've all had failures and made our mistakes.... the internet does a good job of documenting those experiences. </p><p></p><p>Its important to recognize that we both engineer products for specific reasons and have our own philosophies of suspension tuning. We've benchmark plenty of competitor parts and BMR is exceptional with some parts. Upon reviews we respect the fact that BMR actually 'innovates' and does appear to take its time to think about the complexity of suspension. </p><p></p><p>One of the biggest differences between WHITELINE and others starts with the philosophy. We like to tune suspension in a more linear form. We have a long history in hill climbs so we believe driver inputs/outputs to be the single biggest factor in spirited driving. That means tuning starts with our bushings. We test underneath the vehicle to review how an arm moves, why it moves, when it moves and we manipulate that movement to promote performance. The problem with standard polyurethane bushings is they don't articulate very well and are not as durable. Our formulation has endured the harshest environment known to man.... we've had our products place on the top 3 podium spots in Dakar rally where sand, salt, water, mud, gravel are abundant. Our bushings have a lifetime warranty on them because they retain grease very well. That is why we don't have grease fittings on our arms. We utilize a grease retention system that allows us to claim a zero maintenance, zero squeek, and lifetime warranty on our bushings.</p><p></p><p>Through our engineered bushings, we can control certain movements to stiffen suspension or improve grip but allow the arm to articulate in other axis. The OEM engineers are allot smarter than we give them credit. We must understand when they do something there typically is a reason, albeit it is often a cost related reason. Stiffening up arms to lock 2 points together only transfers the load somewhere else, typically the stock rubber bushings do all the absorbing. Its important we recognize our cars are not tube chassis F1 and are not driven on smooth race tracks. The suspension needs to articulate to some degree and general consumers do care about NVH levels. The basis of our designs starts manipulating suspension movements..... NOT eliminating movement. </p><p></p><p>I will also say that with Whiteline you will have uncanning product support over the life of the product. Even parts that are used and abused were taken care of. We won't shy away from issues and hide our weaknesses, our approach has always been to use those situations to strengthen our product, design, and intelligence. We tend to think consumers are smart enough to figure out issues and talk among one another so the better products usually end up winning regardless of how we market or what we say. </p><p></p><p>Cheers!</p><p></p><p>Tom</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="WHITELINE, post: 13396854, member: 152008"] It seems like BMR and Whiteline tend to be compared to one another lately and although its easy to get caught up with brand loyalty.... the reality is we both do things well. Some products are better than others, others are more suitable for specific needs better than others. We've all had failures and made our mistakes.... the internet does a good job of documenting those experiences. Its important to recognize that we both engineer products for specific reasons and have our own philosophies of suspension tuning. We've benchmark plenty of competitor parts and BMR is exceptional with some parts. Upon reviews we respect the fact that BMR actually 'innovates' and does appear to take its time to think about the complexity of suspension. One of the biggest differences between WHITELINE and others starts with the philosophy. We like to tune suspension in a more linear form. We have a long history in hill climbs so we believe driver inputs/outputs to be the single biggest factor in spirited driving. That means tuning starts with our bushings. We test underneath the vehicle to review how an arm moves, why it moves, when it moves and we manipulate that movement to promote performance. The problem with standard polyurethane bushings is they don't articulate very well and are not as durable. Our formulation has endured the harshest environment known to man.... we've had our products place on the top 3 podium spots in Dakar rally where sand, salt, water, mud, gravel are abundant. Our bushings have a lifetime warranty on them because they retain grease very well. That is why we don't have grease fittings on our arms. We utilize a grease retention system that allows us to claim a zero maintenance, zero squeek, and lifetime warranty on our bushings. Through our engineered bushings, we can control certain movements to stiffen suspension or improve grip but allow the arm to articulate in other axis. The OEM engineers are allot smarter than we give them credit. We must understand when they do something there typically is a reason, albeit it is often a cost related reason. Stiffening up arms to lock 2 points together only transfers the load somewhere else, typically the stock rubber bushings do all the absorbing. Its important we recognize our cars are not tube chassis F1 and are not driven on smooth race tracks. The suspension needs to articulate to some degree and general consumers do care about NVH levels. The basis of our designs starts manipulating suspension movements..... NOT eliminating movement. I will also say that with Whiteline you will have uncanning product support over the life of the product. Even parts that are used and abused were taken care of. We won't shy away from issues and hide our weaknesses, our approach has always been to use those situations to strengthen our product, design, and intelligence. We tend to think consumers are smart enough to figure out issues and talk among one another so the better products usually end up winning regardless of how we market or what we say. Cheers! Tom [/QUOTE]
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