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Case involving home damage from SWAT
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<blockquote data-quote="svtfocus2cobra" data-source="post: 16315930" data-attributes="member: 21786"><p>I know exactly what you mean by the effectiveness of a no knock warrant, and while it has been useful in cases there have also been too many misuses and mistakes made with these tactics that it has left innocent civilians killed or seriously injured. When a mistake is made like a wrong address, it puts that law abiding citizen in an imminent death situation if they grab a firearm to defend their home. I wish I could get rid of the commentator on this video but this case lays it out pretty clearly how they can be abused and luckily in this case the judges smacked the city down pretty swiftly. </p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]0rsPfk_qwK0[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I think about this situation all the time because I know if I heard someone break into my home in the middle of the night without announcing who they are I am grabbing my gun and I'm going to fight back and will likely die if it ends up being the PD. On top of that, there are two of my exact apartment numbers in my complex because there is an old section and a new section and people mistake mine for the other and so on. So in this raid if I take one of theirs do you think they are all going to stop and say "hey, maybe we need to stop because have the wrong address"? No, they are going to come at me with even more ferocity because they think they have their man and all the while I think I just killed an intruder, but they wont stop until I am dead or all of them are dead. It isn't fair to citizens to have to deal with the mistakes of their local PD or whatever agency is conducting these raids. It's a bad idea unless you are actually conducting military operations. As an assault force you have more than enough resources to take out a threat and in a much safer manner considering trying to take someone barricaded in their own home is the single most dangerous action you can take as an assaulting force. Last I remember, it was an 83% casualty rate while conducting CQB operations so doing raids should really be one of the last options on any department's list. </p><p></p><p>I'm all for LE and special operations LE being well equipped to conduct their jobs but as a civilian now who knows the other side of the job there are a lot of concerns that I dont know can be justified in regards to public safety.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="svtfocus2cobra, post: 16315930, member: 21786"] I know exactly what you mean by the effectiveness of a no knock warrant, and while it has been useful in cases there have also been too many misuses and mistakes made with these tactics that it has left innocent civilians killed or seriously injured. When a mistake is made like a wrong address, it puts that law abiding citizen in an imminent death situation if they grab a firearm to defend their home. I wish I could get rid of the commentator on this video but this case lays it out pretty clearly how they can be abused and luckily in this case the judges smacked the city down pretty swiftly. [MEDIA=youtube]0rsPfk_qwK0[/MEDIA] I think about this situation all the time because I know if I heard someone break into my home in the middle of the night without announcing who they are I am grabbing my gun and I'm going to fight back and will likely die if it ends up being the PD. On top of that, there are two of my exact apartment numbers in my complex because there is an old section and a new section and people mistake mine for the other and so on. So in this raid if I take one of theirs do you think they are all going to stop and say "hey, maybe we need to stop because have the wrong address"? No, they are going to come at me with even more ferocity because they think they have their man and all the while I think I just killed an intruder, but they wont stop until I am dead or all of them are dead. It isn't fair to citizens to have to deal with the mistakes of their local PD or whatever agency is conducting these raids. It's a bad idea unless you are actually conducting military operations. As an assault force you have more than enough resources to take out a threat and in a much safer manner considering trying to take someone barricaded in their own home is the single most dangerous action you can take as an assaulting force. Last I remember, it was an 83% casualty rate while conducting CQB operations so doing raids should really be one of the last options on any department's list. I'm all for LE and special operations LE being well equipped to conduct their jobs but as a civilian now who knows the other side of the job there are a lot of concerns that I dont know can be justified in regards to public safety. [/QUOTE]
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