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<blockquote data-quote="ANGREY" data-source="post: 16247830" data-attributes="member: 188865"><p>Are you in politics? If not, you should be. You've attempted to marginalize my points, but really just talked around the issue.</p><p></p><p>Name another consumption product where the vendor is REQUIRED (aka, you can not buy directly from the manufacturer). I'm not talking about franchise and retail agreements that are private and voluntary. I'm talking about, it's ILLEGAL to buy directly from the source. The only two that come to mind are cable television (which again, is a government forced middle man that requires you purchase "bundles" of bullshit you don't need. It's actually against the law for the comm companies to offer you channels "ala carte." That's because like the dealership gangsters, the networks all bribed politicians to force comm companies to bundle. So in the end, people end up paying for shit they don't want or need.)</p><p></p><p>The same is true for dealerships.</p><p></p><p>I really don't need a Ford dealership to purchase a vehicle. Set aside the aspect of whether they provide value in the transaction (as some dealers are really honest and helpful) the fact that you MUST (or face legal consequences) is criminal. It adds insult to injury that Ford (and other manufacturers) don't REQUIRE the dealerships honor certain warranty claim standards.</p><p></p><p>Everyone understands dealerships like to do SOME warranty work. They love to eat their dessert. The fact that they can pick and choose is kinda disgusting. I can't imagine telling my customers, "you MUST go through me, but after your purchase, I get to decide whether or not I want to support you. But don't worry, if it's easy and high margin service/support, we'll be glad to help, but if it's difficult or bothersome for me, I'm just going to tell you to hit the pavement."</p><p></p><p>Lastly, as a consumer, I'm not sure I'd want to drop my vehicle off for work at a place that didn't want my business, but to the original post's point, it's kinda foul that a dealer could sell you a vehicle and then just decide they don't want to help you if something goes wrong. But such is life and the crooked system we live in.</p><p></p><p>Uber broke the backs of the crooked taxi unions. Tesla will do the same in the auto market with the dealer cartels. I could care less if Tesla employees are happy. It has nothing to do with my point. I'm not even a fan of Tesla or their products, but I do understand their struggle to break a criminal enterprise where dealers are legally forced middle man upon the consumer.</p><p></p><p>The fact that dealerships lobbied and bribed to get these laws in place is telling. No company or idea that's successful on it's own merits feels the need to pass a law forcing people to use them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ANGREY, post: 16247830, member: 188865"] Are you in politics? If not, you should be. You've attempted to marginalize my points, but really just talked around the issue. Name another consumption product where the vendor is REQUIRED (aka, you can not buy directly from the manufacturer). I'm not talking about franchise and retail agreements that are private and voluntary. I'm talking about, it's ILLEGAL to buy directly from the source. The only two that come to mind are cable television (which again, is a government forced middle man that requires you purchase "bundles" of bullshit you don't need. It's actually against the law for the comm companies to offer you channels "ala carte." That's because like the dealership gangsters, the networks all bribed politicians to force comm companies to bundle. So in the end, people end up paying for shit they don't want or need.) The same is true for dealerships. I really don't need a Ford dealership to purchase a vehicle. Set aside the aspect of whether they provide value in the transaction (as some dealers are really honest and helpful) the fact that you MUST (or face legal consequences) is criminal. It adds insult to injury that Ford (and other manufacturers) don't REQUIRE the dealerships honor certain warranty claim standards. Everyone understands dealerships like to do SOME warranty work. They love to eat their dessert. The fact that they can pick and choose is kinda disgusting. I can't imagine telling my customers, "you MUST go through me, but after your purchase, I get to decide whether or not I want to support you. But don't worry, if it's easy and high margin service/support, we'll be glad to help, but if it's difficult or bothersome for me, I'm just going to tell you to hit the pavement." Lastly, as a consumer, I'm not sure I'd want to drop my vehicle off for work at a place that didn't want my business, but to the original post's point, it's kinda foul that a dealer could sell you a vehicle and then just decide they don't want to help you if something goes wrong. But such is life and the crooked system we live in. Uber broke the backs of the crooked taxi unions. Tesla will do the same in the auto market with the dealer cartels. I could care less if Tesla employees are happy. It has nothing to do with my point. I'm not even a fan of Tesla or their products, but I do understand their struggle to break a criminal enterprise where dealers are legally forced middle man upon the consumer. The fact that dealerships lobbied and bribed to get these laws in place is telling. No company or idea that's successful on it's own merits feels the need to pass a law forcing people to use them. [/QUOTE]
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