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<blockquote data-quote="Blkkbgt" data-source="post: 16501896" data-attributes="member: 117234"><p>Before I decided on a full coilover setup I searched for months looking for failures. I found none on properly designed and installed coilovers. The few claims of failures I found had zero evidence to back it up to even the slightest degree. I also had relatively long conversation with maximum motorsports about them as well before I pulled the trigger.</p><p></p><p>According to MM the only failures they have seen were on cars either running stock CC plates or thin 3 bolt plates on 94-04 cars (foxes are a different story). The failures were actually oil canning due to the 3 bolt CC plates not distributing the load as the strut top is outside the triangle formed by the bolts. The one and only complete failure they had witnessed was on a car involved in a full rollover while open tracking. I think we can agree at that point all bets are off for any coilover or strut tower to fully survive that situation.</p><p></p><p>Let's also not forget the old fr500 ford racing was trying to roll out ages ago. That car used an SLA front setup with NO changes to the strut tower. If there were strength concerns I doubt they would have bothered designing such a setup.</p><p></p><p>Another note regarding the front end and coilovers brings me back to the days of good ol' Granatelli motorsports. There is a thread on corral where a member installed a full GMS k member, a arm and coilover setup. He often tracked his car and during a hill climb event smashed a curb hard enough to pop the tire, break the rim and deform the CC plate. The strut tower survived and JR sent the guy a new CC plate for next to nothing. For that strut tower to not be designed for coilovers and survive and incident like that speaks volumes about their strength.</p><p></p><p>Regarding the rear of the car I have not once seen, heard or read about a failure or issue with those towers. If there were concerns I think someone like MM or Griggs would have either not developed a kit at all. Keep in mind MM tested their parts for years on the street, autocross and open track before releasing it. I have no reason not to trust them.</p><p></p><p>Lastly when people make the claim that coilovers will damage or destroy the strut towers I instantly want evidence and I have yet have a single person provide it. Lately I find these comments on Facebook and other social media platforms that seem to attract people with the lowest automotive IQ who want to spew complete and utter garbage in an attempt to look like they know things about cars. The funny thing to me is that one person will make an uninformed or idiotic comment and several others will give it a thumbs up demonstrating that there's more than just that idiot that believes the same thing. This also leads people to believe what said idiot has posted without question when they scroll through while searching or following a post. Be careful where you get your information while doing research and who you believe is all I am saying.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Blkkbgt, post: 16501896, member: 117234"] Before I decided on a full coilover setup I searched for months looking for failures. I found none on properly designed and installed coilovers. The few claims of failures I found had zero evidence to back it up to even the slightest degree. I also had relatively long conversation with maximum motorsports about them as well before I pulled the trigger. According to MM the only failures they have seen were on cars either running stock CC plates or thin 3 bolt plates on 94-04 cars (foxes are a different story). The failures were actually oil canning due to the 3 bolt CC plates not distributing the load as the strut top is outside the triangle formed by the bolts. The one and only complete failure they had witnessed was on a car involved in a full rollover while open tracking. I think we can agree at that point all bets are off for any coilover or strut tower to fully survive that situation. Let's also not forget the old fr500 ford racing was trying to roll out ages ago. That car used an SLA front setup with NO changes to the strut tower. If there were strength concerns I doubt they would have bothered designing such a setup. Another note regarding the front end and coilovers brings me back to the days of good ol' Granatelli motorsports. There is a thread on corral where a member installed a full GMS k member, a arm and coilover setup. He often tracked his car and during a hill climb event smashed a curb hard enough to pop the tire, break the rim and deform the CC plate. The strut tower survived and JR sent the guy a new CC plate for next to nothing. For that strut tower to not be designed for coilovers and survive and incident like that speaks volumes about their strength. Regarding the rear of the car I have not once seen, heard or read about a failure or issue with those towers. If there were concerns I think someone like MM or Griggs would have either not developed a kit at all. Keep in mind MM tested their parts for years on the street, autocross and open track before releasing it. I have no reason not to trust them. Lastly when people make the claim that coilovers will damage or destroy the strut towers I instantly want evidence and I have yet have a single person provide it. Lately I find these comments on Facebook and other social media platforms that seem to attract people with the lowest automotive IQ who want to spew complete and utter garbage in an attempt to look like they know things about cars. The funny thing to me is that one person will make an uninformed or idiotic comment and several others will give it a thumbs up demonstrating that there's more than just that idiot that believes the same thing. This also leads people to believe what said idiot has posted without question when they scroll through while searching or following a post. Be careful where you get your information while doing research and who you believe is all I am saying. [/QUOTE]
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