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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Demon Beats 1000bhp Camaro, GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="SlowSVT" data-source="post: 16106300" data-attributes="member: 20202"><p>Both the GT500 and the Challenger Hellcat/Redeye/Demon are aimed at the same customer who have a choice between owning a big stoplight bully or one that's a little more track oriented pick your poison! Both are phenomenal cars compared to what came before but neither will be perfect. Dodge is stuck with the Chrysler 300 platform for the foundation of the Challenger making the car a "behemoth" in both size a weight while the other is saddled with small bore centers (and a linerless block) which limits Ford to a small displacement V8, both will likely be within a few 100 lbs of one another being over 2 tons each!</p><p></p><p>If I had to chose between a GT500 and a Demon that would be a tough call. The GT500 will likely be more of a "drivers car" where the Challenger will be a little more "mod happy" brute as I would not lay a finger on a 5.2 already pushing close to the limit right out of the factory something tells me we won't be seeing too many GT500's packing 25 lbs of boost. Where the Challenger starts out of the hole with up to almost a 2 liter advantage with a much bigger block to play with and will readily accept oversize pistons. What hurts me with the Dodge is all the bulk and wheelbase that comes with it plus I feel like I'm stepping into a "cocoon" every time I get into one and the visibility sucks! The Challenger is a very handsome car and a bit more modest than the "in your face" aggressive appearance presented to anyone with a rearview mirror full of GT500. The S550 is a great looking car Ford as done a good job with it. With the GT500 I think they should paint the bumper cover breaking-up that carnivorous grill and make the rear wing a little more subtle. Things will be a lot more interesting now that the Camaro and Challenger have a new adversary to contend with, nothing better than watching car brands duking it out.</p><p></p><p>The DCT is a better transmission from a performance perspective but I'm a "stick & pedal" guy which is a bit more engaging than toggling a steering wheel lever. I prefer "simplicity" which makes the car easier to work on which neither of these cars posses and would be more then happy with a T56 Magnum. My understanding is that Ford is grappling which direction with regard to transmission choices to go with but something tells me the DCT is what ends-up going in the car. Offering a manual as an option on such a low volume car (my guess 5K units a year) may be more expensive then it's worth.</p><p></p><p>Finally, Ford releases the GT500 but they are doing it on the eve of sun setting the S550 platform how long are we going to wait for the next one after 2021? With the "electrification" of the S650 what role will that play in the case of the Shelby? As I have posed this question before, I'm curious how Ford is going to handle having a V8 in a car built with hybrid drive in mind even in a garden variety GT. The most sensible thing would be to omit the electric drive system entirely what's the point of lugging around the mass of a V8 that swaps duty with the motors when you stomp on the pedal then using it to charge the batteries? It will be very interesting what's in store for the Mustang but something tells me the days of the V8 especially at Ford are numbered.</p><p></p><p>I wonder when the pre-production cars start getting into the hands of the automotive press and how they react to it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SlowSVT, post: 16106300, member: 20202"] Both the GT500 and the Challenger Hellcat/Redeye/Demon are aimed at the same customer who have a choice between owning a big stoplight bully or one that's a little more track oriented pick your poison! Both are phenomenal cars compared to what came before but neither will be perfect. Dodge is stuck with the Chrysler 300 platform for the foundation of the Challenger making the car a "behemoth" in both size a weight while the other is saddled with small bore centers (and a linerless block) which limits Ford to a small displacement V8, both will likely be within a few 100 lbs of one another being over 2 tons each! If I had to chose between a GT500 and a Demon that would be a tough call. The GT500 will likely be more of a "drivers car" where the Challenger will be a little more "mod happy" brute as I would not lay a finger on a 5.2 already pushing close to the limit right out of the factory something tells me we won't be seeing too many GT500's packing 25 lbs of boost. Where the Challenger starts out of the hole with up to almost a 2 liter advantage with a much bigger block to play with and will readily accept oversize pistons. What hurts me with the Dodge is all the bulk and wheelbase that comes with it plus I feel like I'm stepping into a "cocoon" every time I get into one and the visibility sucks! The Challenger is a very handsome car and a bit more modest than the "in your face" aggressive appearance presented to anyone with a rearview mirror full of GT500. The S550 is a great looking car Ford as done a good job with it. With the GT500 I think they should paint the bumper cover breaking-up that carnivorous grill and make the rear wing a little more subtle. Things will be a lot more interesting now that the Camaro and Challenger have a new adversary to contend with, nothing better than watching car brands duking it out. The DCT is a better transmission from a performance perspective but I'm a "stick & pedal" guy which is a bit more engaging than toggling a steering wheel lever. I prefer "simplicity" which makes the car easier to work on which neither of these cars posses and would be more then happy with a T56 Magnum. My understanding is that Ford is grappling which direction with regard to transmission choices to go with but something tells me the DCT is what ends-up going in the car. Offering a manual as an option on such a low volume car (my guess 5K units a year) may be more expensive then it's worth. Finally, Ford releases the GT500 but they are doing it on the eve of sun setting the S550 platform how long are we going to wait for the next one after 2021? With the "electrification" of the S650 what role will that play in the case of the Shelby? As I have posed this question before, I'm curious how Ford is going to handle having a V8 in a car built with hybrid drive in mind even in a garden variety GT. The most sensible thing would be to omit the electric drive system entirely what's the point of lugging around the mass of a V8 that swaps duty with the motors when you stomp on the pedal then using it to charge the batteries? It will be very interesting what's in store for the Mustang but something tells me the days of the V8 especially at Ford are numbered. I wonder when the pre-production cars start getting into the hands of the automotive press and how they react to it. [/QUOTE]
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