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E85 eating main bearings???
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<blockquote data-quote="bambinov8" data-source="post: 11402074" data-attributes="member: 68126"><p>Also found this quite interesting from the oil folks in Australia and their knowledge of e85 + oil : :00 AM</p><p></p><p>Guy's.</p><p></p><p>I have worked in the oil industry for many years, specialising in Automotive, Earthmoving, Transport, Mining and industrial. Also I have been lucky enough to be racing cars since the 1990's</p><p></p><p>Currently I am racing in improved Production in a S14a 200sx My website, its obviously a built engine and we are using Power Plus E85.</p><p></p><p>When considering which oil to use, always check the manufactures recommendations. However when racing you may want to consider different viscosities (thickness). I use a United Oil product, which is the company i am currently working for. Please dont get caught up in marketing hype, all the reputable brands are good!</p><p></p><p>The most important thing when using E85 is to change your oil regularly, E85 destroys it. Also, to meet the new API rating "SN" the oil must be suitable for use with E85 fuel. So, when shopping for your oil, you really should be looking for an API "SN" oil. API "S" specs . Now this is where you will find it hard. To meet API "SN" the oil must also meet stringint fuel consumption tests, which means in most cases the oil will be thin. Also, like someone said earlier the base oil is likely to be a "Hydrocrack" which is not a "proper" synthetic. Hydrocrack Synthetics are still are very good product, infact most people on here will be using hydrocrack synthetics and not even know it. Hydrocraks can struggle a bit in ultra high temp racing applications as they can tend fume of their lighter solvents and leave only the thicker oil in the sump. You sometimes can see this as the catch can will have fuems coming out and may also leave some oil in the catch can.</p><p></p><p>So, ideally if you are using E85 in a racecar you will want full synthetic (PAO/Ester) that meets API "SN", but I dont think its available yet. The next best thing is an API "SM" that is a PAO/Ester synthetic and a viscosity that suits your requirments and CHANGE IT VERY OFTEN! If you are using E85 in a road car that does the occasional track sprint or drag race choose an API "SN" hydrocrack, I think the thickest you will find is a 5w40 or 5w50. United GX Racing API SN</p><p></p><p>FYI I use United Ulimax 10w60 SM (PAO/Ester) in my E85 200sx but also sell United 1 5w50 SM (PAO/Ester)to fellow racers using E85 in their racecars including some hardcore RB engines on E85, we change it after every race meeting. <a href="http://www.united-oi...AX%20RACING.pdfUnited" target="_blank">http://www.united-oi...AX RACING.pdfUnited</a> 1 United Ultimax 10w60</p><p></p><p>People say the oil thins out when using E85 but from my experience I think thats incorrect. Its more like using Methanol, the oil congeals like having water in your oil!</p><p></p><p>When using AV Gas in our FD RX7 race car (500hp 13b Turbo) we use to get a full season out of our engine oil, so thats 8 race meetings and 4 practice days, thats 380 laps or 850kms. Now on E85 using the same oil we have to change it after every meeting.</p><p></p><p>I hope this helps, if you feel I am incorrect or if you have a question pleas elet me know</p><p></p><p>Ash</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bambinov8, post: 11402074, member: 68126"] Also found this quite interesting from the oil folks in Australia and their knowledge of e85 + oil : :00 AM Guy's. I have worked in the oil industry for many years, specialising in Automotive, Earthmoving, Transport, Mining and industrial. Also I have been lucky enough to be racing cars since the 1990's Currently I am racing in improved Production in a S14a 200sx My website, its obviously a built engine and we are using Power Plus E85. When considering which oil to use, always check the manufactures recommendations. However when racing you may want to consider different viscosities (thickness). I use a United Oil product, which is the company i am currently working for. Please dont get caught up in marketing hype, all the reputable brands are good! The most important thing when using E85 is to change your oil regularly, E85 destroys it. Also, to meet the new API rating "SN" the oil must be suitable for use with E85 fuel. So, when shopping for your oil, you really should be looking for an API "SN" oil. API "S" specs . Now this is where you will find it hard. To meet API "SN" the oil must also meet stringint fuel consumption tests, which means in most cases the oil will be thin. Also, like someone said earlier the base oil is likely to be a "Hydrocrack" which is not a "proper" synthetic. Hydrocrack Synthetics are still are very good product, infact most people on here will be using hydrocrack synthetics and not even know it. Hydrocraks can struggle a bit in ultra high temp racing applications as they can tend fume of their lighter solvents and leave only the thicker oil in the sump. You sometimes can see this as the catch can will have fuems coming out and may also leave some oil in the catch can. So, ideally if you are using E85 in a racecar you will want full synthetic (PAO/Ester) that meets API "SN", but I dont think its available yet. The next best thing is an API "SM" that is a PAO/Ester synthetic and a viscosity that suits your requirments and CHANGE IT VERY OFTEN! If you are using E85 in a road car that does the occasional track sprint or drag race choose an API "SN" hydrocrack, I think the thickest you will find is a 5w40 or 5w50. United GX Racing API SN FYI I use United Ulimax 10w60 SM (PAO/Ester) in my E85 200sx but also sell United 1 5w50 SM (PAO/Ester)to fellow racers using E85 in their racecars including some hardcore RB engines on E85, we change it after every race meeting. [url]http://www.united-oi...AX%20RACING.pdfUnited[/url] 1 United Ultimax 10w60 People say the oil thins out when using E85 but from my experience I think thats incorrect. Its more like using Methanol, the oil congeals like having water in your oil! When using AV Gas in our FD RX7 race car (500hp 13b Turbo) we use to get a full season out of our engine oil, so thats 8 race meetings and 4 practice days, thats 380 laps or 850kms. Now on E85 using the same oil we have to change it after every meeting. I hope this helps, if you feel I am incorrect or if you have a question pleas elet me know Ash [/QUOTE]
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