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EPA to Start Aggressively Enforcing Emission Defeat Devices
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<blockquote data-quote="SecondhandSnake" data-source="post: 16355349" data-attributes="member: 116684"><p>I like that by hyperbole you actually made it sound more plausible.</p><p></p><p>SELF DESTRUCTING FROM SPACE sounds pretty metal, but it's exactly what features like OnStar and other remote kill switches used by dealers do for years. So it's completely and totally plausible.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm not even going to touch on a lot of those statements and refrain from a lot of criticism and name calling.</p><p></p><p>Now you seem to be fixated on "OMG IT'S GONNA EXPLODE IF I DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET REMOTE KILLSWITCH, but I'm gonna cover it in tin foil and they'll never get me!"</p><p></p><p>In reality here's how it will go:</p><p></p><p>EPA says real time emissions system monitoring is mandatory. Any vehicle that does not get any emissions critical patches or is noncompliant must be disabled or fixed within X amount of time.</p><p></p><p>Manufacturers implement this feature because, well, they need to actually sell cars to work.</p><p></p><p>Written in your owner's manual:</p><p>Periodic updates to software are necessary. No reflashing or dealer visits are required. All of this can be done through an internet connection while driving. If you do not have a connection at your home or driving route, you can find a list of supported locations on dealerwebsite. If updates are not made within X time period features and functions may be progressively limited until the update is received.</p><p></p><p>Degradation would be similar to what they already do for emissions critical faults. As your timer ticks down first you get a soft warning at start. Then a fault code. Then you lose the luxury features like CarPlay. Then acceleration is reduced, then power, flashing red lamps, vehicle speed is reduced, finally the vehicle will not start on your next key cycle and your DMV/DOT will be notified of your non-compliance, your registration will be flagged.</p><p></p><p>And all of this is unlikely to be fought. 98% of the population won't see an issue, especially with population moving to urban centers and the prevalence of internet service. People are used to the DRM and licensing of software on every device they own, even appliances. The bottom line is there's only a handful of people that would be impacted or complain, not enough to justify changing it.</p><p></p><p>I'm not advocating for it. I'm just in the industry and see the writing on the wall. I'm just a realist and planning accordingly, rather than ignoring it as an impossibility.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SecondhandSnake, post: 16355349, member: 116684"] I like that by hyperbole you actually made it sound more plausible. SELF DESTRUCTING FROM SPACE sounds pretty metal, but it's exactly what features like OnStar and other remote kill switches used by dealers do for years. So it's completely and totally plausible. I'm not even going to touch on a lot of those statements and refrain from a lot of criticism and name calling. Now you seem to be fixated on "OMG IT'S GONNA EXPLODE IF I DONT CONNECT TO THE INTERNET REMOTE KILLSWITCH, but I'm gonna cover it in tin foil and they'll never get me!" In reality here's how it will go: EPA says real time emissions system monitoring is mandatory. Any vehicle that does not get any emissions critical patches or is noncompliant must be disabled or fixed within X amount of time. Manufacturers implement this feature because, well, they need to actually sell cars to work. Written in your owner's manual: Periodic updates to software are necessary. No reflashing or dealer visits are required. All of this can be done through an internet connection while driving. If you do not have a connection at your home or driving route, you can find a list of supported locations on dealerwebsite. If updates are not made within X time period features and functions may be progressively limited until the update is received. Degradation would be similar to what they already do for emissions critical faults. As your timer ticks down first you get a soft warning at start. Then a fault code. Then you lose the luxury features like CarPlay. Then acceleration is reduced, then power, flashing red lamps, vehicle speed is reduced, finally the vehicle will not start on your next key cycle and your DMV/DOT will be notified of your non-compliance, your registration will be flagged. And all of this is unlikely to be fought. 98% of the population won't see an issue, especially with population moving to urban centers and the prevalence of internet service. People are used to the DRM and licensing of software on every device they own, even appliances. The bottom line is there's only a handful of people that would be impacted or complain, not enough to justify changing it. I'm not advocating for it. I'm just in the industry and see the writing on the wall. I'm just a realist and planning accordingly, rather than ignoring it as an impossibility. [/QUOTE]
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