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Escort 360 malfunction, or cop lying?
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<blockquote data-quote="silver03svt" data-source="post: 16531372" data-attributes="member: 107540"><p>As a 21 year career LEO, let me set a few things straight from your original post. </p><p></p><p>1. NO radar detector/lidar detector/etc.... is 100% accurate. There will always be some point at which it won't pick up the device the LEO is using. It happens. I don't care what the manufacturer touts the reliability rate is, NONE are 100% accurate.</p><p></p><p>2. Most state do not have laws where the LEO must have any lights on at all to work stationary speed enforcement. Only state I know of is PA, and if it is dark outside, a stationary LEO must have the park lamps activated. This may have changed, and there may be more states, but I am not sure.</p><p></p><p>3. A majority of courts do not recognize GPS speeds as certified speed measurement devices. Same with using GPS to measure distances. </p><p></p><p>4. Yes, you can always ask the officer to see the radar unit, however, there is no legal precedent that says you have "a right" to see it. Even if you did, many departments have policies that officers will NOT lock the speed in once a speed is obtained (keeps LEO from having a high speed locked in and writing everyone for that speed). So even if you got out and looked at it, you probably wouldn't see anything but a blank screen.</p><p></p><p>5. I'd be getting a little pissed with you too if you kept interrupting me while I tried to do my job. The roadside is NOT the place to argue or contest the ticket. The courtroom is the place for that. The LEO only makes the charge, and you have a right to disagree with it. But save the arguments and back talk for the courtroom. </p><p></p><p>6. You have the legal right to send the officer's department a Motion for Discovery through the courts, or send them a FOIA request for any information about the case. The LEO does NOT have to comply with such requests on the roadside.</p><p></p><p>7. Trying to handle of all this stuff over the telephone normally doesn't work either. Due process is through the courtroom, not the telephone. It is innocent until proven guilty. The officer will have to prove the case in court. If you want to be found not guilty, then it is your job to prove that the officer's testimony is incorrect. You need solid evidence for that, not just opinions on how things are supposed to work.</p><p></p><p>Good luck with whichever way you decide to handle it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="silver03svt, post: 16531372, member: 107540"] As a 21 year career LEO, let me set a few things straight from your original post. 1. NO radar detector/lidar detector/etc.... is 100% accurate. There will always be some point at which it won't pick up the device the LEO is using. It happens. I don't care what the manufacturer touts the reliability rate is, NONE are 100% accurate. 2. Most state do not have laws where the LEO must have any lights on at all to work stationary speed enforcement. Only state I know of is PA, and if it is dark outside, a stationary LEO must have the park lamps activated. This may have changed, and there may be more states, but I am not sure. 3. A majority of courts do not recognize GPS speeds as certified speed measurement devices. Same with using GPS to measure distances. 4. Yes, you can always ask the officer to see the radar unit, however, there is no legal precedent that says you have "a right" to see it. Even if you did, many departments have policies that officers will NOT lock the speed in once a speed is obtained (keeps LEO from having a high speed locked in and writing everyone for that speed). So even if you got out and looked at it, you probably wouldn't see anything but a blank screen. 5. I'd be getting a little pissed with you too if you kept interrupting me while I tried to do my job. The roadside is NOT the place to argue or contest the ticket. The courtroom is the place for that. The LEO only makes the charge, and you have a right to disagree with it. But save the arguments and back talk for the courtroom. 6. You have the legal right to send the officer's department a Motion for Discovery through the courts, or send them a FOIA request for any information about the case. The LEO does NOT have to comply with such requests on the roadside. 7. Trying to handle of all this stuff over the telephone normally doesn't work either. Due process is through the courtroom, not the telephone. It is innocent until proven guilty. The officer will have to prove the case in court. If you want to be found not guilty, then it is your job to prove that the officer's testimony is incorrect. You need solid evidence for that, not just opinions on how things are supposed to work. Good luck with whichever way you decide to handle it. [/QUOTE]
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