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<blockquote data-quote="fishpick" data-source="post: 15567895" data-attributes="member: 182347"><p>As for the throttle body saga... Got my screws from Fastenal - and they work! So the TB is together with the correct screws. I'm not sure why after talking with Whipple, even knowing of several other people that have had this issue, why they wouldn't change the damn TB to use standard 4mm screws and include them in the kit so this is never an issue for anyone... I don't get it. This is just annoying drama.</p><p>AND still no parts from Whipple... they are "in the mail" and the tracking number says they will get here Wednesday (that's 10 days from the day I called) - they must have shipped them FedEx Pack Mule Super Saver or some other crappy cheap and slow way. Not really happy... ESPECIALLY as I have worked through some of the last parts of the install and found MORE parts missing. My opinion of this kit is dropping and my apprehension of things actually working on startup is increasing.</p><p>For example, this is what consumed my Saturday morning, there's a hose that comes out of the top of the SC intercooler over to the airbox area. This hose then connects to a plastic T that is basically the filler tube for the whole IC/HE system. Then to the other side of the fill tube there's a line that is supposed to run under the intake airbox, past the ABS module, and down to the reservoir that lives right in front of the drivers wheel well. I'm guessing to produce this hose Whipple buys a bunch of 3/4" ID heater hoses with 90* bends on the end, cuts them to length, and then combines 2 using a male-male connector... well - my hose was not pushed all the way on the connector before they then heat shrunk the clamps on... and the damn thing was STILL too short. LUCKY for me - even tho they seem to have forgotten almost 10 specific parts in the kit and the stage 3 addons... they somehow packed me an extra heat shrink clamp. SO - I got a heater hose with a 90* in it from NAPA, took the short Whipple hose and cut off a heat clamp and that side of the hose, and extended the hose out. Now it fits with my inch added and another $13 of my own cash.</p><p>With the giant oval TB that haunted me after the stock TB screws sheared off - the shorted me 2 gigantic band clamps to connect the silicone sleeve from the TB to the intake tube... I cross referenced the Clampco's in the kit and found 2 of the same size, different brand on Amazon, so they will be here tomorrow... abouter $15 out of pocket.</p><p>They provide a new hose from the water neck 1/4" fitting to the degas tank... the bag was marked 2015+, I asked, "no problem, it will work"... sure it will - it's so friggin long I have a loop in it zip tied to keep it out of moving parts all hidden under the intake.</p><p>Now, I get that part of this is frustration with all the missing parts and Whipple's decision to ship them the slowest possible method... but I also HONESTLY feel like the quality of the instructions really kinda dropped off after the mechanical parts. Up until the whole IC tubing, the descriptions and the pictures really were great. Once I got to the tubing routing, things seemed to have gotten much more vague and some of the pics don't help. For example, when you install the fuel lines to the rails - the written instructions are very clear on where the lines go and the photos also show exactly where things go where as the 1/4" line I mentioned above or the tube that was too short - they just say "connect". Ehh, just me complaining from frustration.</p><p>Case in point - I got the IC reservoir mounted on the car using a hybrid of the MY 11/12 instructions and the MY 13/14 instructions because neither were "right" (although as a 12, maybe my car straddles some 2013 changes, I dunno)... and then - when I went to the next step - realized - the damn pump was facing 90* off... but I swear there is a blurry pic a few pages back showing it this way. So the last few times I have gotten to work on things it's not been "progress" it's been "what parts do I have, what am I waiting for, what am I now missing and what can I re-do because it's not quite right the way I did it based on the instructions".</p><p>I'm starting today over at a hardware store that has all sorts of strange screws, because, I know - this is shocking to the reader - my kit was missing some of the screws that you use to attach the filler tube I mentioned earlier to the side of the airbox... and they shorted me 2 of the screws used to attach the top of the airbox...</p><p>Next update will have pictures of where I'm at... and the small pile of screws and connectors they gave me that are not referenced in the instructions and are left over... which is always a super great feeling as well...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fishpick, post: 15567895, member: 182347"] As for the throttle body saga... Got my screws from Fastenal - and they work! So the TB is together with the correct screws. I'm not sure why after talking with Whipple, even knowing of several other people that have had this issue, why they wouldn't change the damn TB to use standard 4mm screws and include them in the kit so this is never an issue for anyone... I don't get it. This is just annoying drama. AND still no parts from Whipple... they are "in the mail" and the tracking number says they will get here Wednesday (that's 10 days from the day I called) - they must have shipped them FedEx Pack Mule Super Saver or some other crappy cheap and slow way. Not really happy... ESPECIALLY as I have worked through some of the last parts of the install and found MORE parts missing. My opinion of this kit is dropping and my apprehension of things actually working on startup is increasing. For example, this is what consumed my Saturday morning, there's a hose that comes out of the top of the SC intercooler over to the airbox area. This hose then connects to a plastic T that is basically the filler tube for the whole IC/HE system. Then to the other side of the fill tube there's a line that is supposed to run under the intake airbox, past the ABS module, and down to the reservoir that lives right in front of the drivers wheel well. I'm guessing to produce this hose Whipple buys a bunch of 3/4" ID heater hoses with 90* bends on the end, cuts them to length, and then combines 2 using a male-male connector... well - my hose was not pushed all the way on the connector before they then heat shrunk the clamps on... and the damn thing was STILL too short. LUCKY for me - even tho they seem to have forgotten almost 10 specific parts in the kit and the stage 3 addons... they somehow packed me an extra heat shrink clamp. SO - I got a heater hose with a 90* in it from NAPA, took the short Whipple hose and cut off a heat clamp and that side of the hose, and extended the hose out. Now it fits with my inch added and another $13 of my own cash. With the giant oval TB that haunted me after the stock TB screws sheared off - the shorted me 2 gigantic band clamps to connect the silicone sleeve from the TB to the intake tube... I cross referenced the Clampco's in the kit and found 2 of the same size, different brand on Amazon, so they will be here tomorrow... abouter $15 out of pocket. They provide a new hose from the water neck 1/4" fitting to the degas tank... the bag was marked 2015+, I asked, "no problem, it will work"... sure it will - it's so friggin long I have a loop in it zip tied to keep it out of moving parts all hidden under the intake. Now, I get that part of this is frustration with all the missing parts and Whipple's decision to ship them the slowest possible method... but I also HONESTLY feel like the quality of the instructions really kinda dropped off after the mechanical parts. Up until the whole IC tubing, the descriptions and the pictures really were great. Once I got to the tubing routing, things seemed to have gotten much more vague and some of the pics don't help. For example, when you install the fuel lines to the rails - the written instructions are very clear on where the lines go and the photos also show exactly where things go where as the 1/4" line I mentioned above or the tube that was too short - they just say "connect". Ehh, just me complaining from frustration. Case in point - I got the IC reservoir mounted on the car using a hybrid of the MY 11/12 instructions and the MY 13/14 instructions because neither were "right" (although as a 12, maybe my car straddles some 2013 changes, I dunno)... and then - when I went to the next step - realized - the damn pump was facing 90* off... but I swear there is a blurry pic a few pages back showing it this way. So the last few times I have gotten to work on things it's not been "progress" it's been "what parts do I have, what am I waiting for, what am I now missing and what can I re-do because it's not quite right the way I did it based on the instructions". I'm starting today over at a hardware store that has all sorts of strange screws, because, I know - this is shocking to the reader - my kit was missing some of the screws that you use to attach the filler tube I mentioned earlier to the side of the airbox... and they shorted me 2 of the screws used to attach the top of the airbox... Next update will have pictures of where I'm at... and the small pile of screws and connectors they gave me that are not referenced in the instructions and are left over... which is always a super great feeling as well... [/QUOTE]
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