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<blockquote data-quote="Fat Boss" data-source="post: 16781524" data-attributes="member: 122645"><p>I disagree, and think it'll take much longer than people expect. What we are seeing is an energy "crisis" across the board that includes electricity and natural gas. </p><p></p><p>There's been countless announcements of countless EV chargers in the works. It's becoming clear to me that either A) people aren't looking at the total cost of installing DC Fast Chargers, or B) there's going an incredible level of investment to make it happen. </p><p></p><p>I figured you could put DC Fast Chargers in for maybe $20k for each "plug." No way, no how is what I've been reading. Those suckers take so much electrical service that there needs to be new transformers and service from the nearest capable 480V location and the trenching and laying the cable etc will bump that cost waaaaay higher than I though it would be. This is all ignoring the massive infrastructure changes needed to the grid. IMO, the estimates on when the world "goes EV" are wildly optimistic, and we'll see easing, and pushing out of the dates as we move forward.</p><p></p><p>In the near term, the bulk of the charging will continue to be done by homeowners with L2 240V chargers. Those are extremely cheap in comparison to any fast charger on the market today.</p><p></p><p>As for how this all relates to oil/gas prices, the more EV's sold the less gasoline demand as a component of world oil markets. If you're for lower gas prices, you should be all for more EV's being sold. I know, it's a catch 22.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fat Boss, post: 16781524, member: 122645"] I disagree, and think it'll take much longer than people expect. What we are seeing is an energy "crisis" across the board that includes electricity and natural gas. There's been countless announcements of countless EV chargers in the works. It's becoming clear to me that either A) people aren't looking at the total cost of installing DC Fast Chargers, or B) there's going an incredible level of investment to make it happen. I figured you could put DC Fast Chargers in for maybe $20k for each "plug." No way, no how is what I've been reading. Those suckers take so much electrical service that there needs to be new transformers and service from the nearest capable 480V location and the trenching and laying the cable etc will bump that cost waaaaay higher than I though it would be. This is all ignoring the massive infrastructure changes needed to the grid. IMO, the estimates on when the world "goes EV" are wildly optimistic, and we'll see easing, and pushing out of the dates as we move forward. In the near term, the bulk of the charging will continue to be done by homeowners with L2 240V chargers. Those are extremely cheap in comparison to any fast charger on the market today. As for how this all relates to oil/gas prices, the more EV's sold the less gasoline demand as a component of world oil markets. If you're for lower gas prices, you should be all for more EV's being sold. I know, it's a catch 22. [/QUOTE]
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