Home
What's new
Latest activity
Authors
Store
Latest reviews
Search products
Forums
New posts
Search forums
What's new
New posts
New listings
New products
New profile posts
Latest activity
Members
Current visitors
New profile posts
Search profile posts
Log in
Register
Cart
Cart
Loading…
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
New posts
Search forums
Search titles only
By:
Menu
Log in
Register
Navigation
Install the app
Install
More options
Change style
Contact us
Close Menu
Forums
SVTPerformance's Chain of Restaurants
Road Side Pub
General Motors Strike
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="derklug" data-source="post: 16302659" data-attributes="member: 138123"><p>I am not your typical union guy, I am a conservative, hard working, Republican, union steward. There is a lot of misinformation flying around, so I will see what I can clear up. </p><p>1. You can't fire a union employee.</p><p> Yes, you can. Most employees are fired for time and attendance which is cut and dried and the union can't help them. Other problems can cause termination if the supervisor documents the infractions and follows the company policies to fire the employee. The problem is that most lower and middle management are just as lazy as the people they are complaining about and don't do their part to solve the problem.</p><p>2.Unions fight for the bad employees.</p><p> Yes, we do. You don't have to fight for the good employees because they don't get in trouble. If there is a bad employee and management has done their due diligence, we put up a token fight. If management has not done their part, we defend the member tooth and nail so that later people don't start getting fired on a supervisor's whim. </p><p>3. Unions don't impact non-union wages</p><p> Wages and benefits in a union shop are generally higher than a non union shop. I am not a believer in the mantra that without unions every job would go to minimum wage with no benefits, but I do believe that the union scale makes non-union shops keep pace in order to keep workers and keep unions out.</p><p>4.Unions send jobs overseas.</p><p> A lot goes into a companies decision to move a plant overseas. You can find areas around the world where people will work for pennies an hour. Often the labor rates alone are not enough to move a plant. Environmental regulations, taxes, utility rates all play a roll in making the decision to move a plant. We still have manufacturing in the US because our quality and productivity generally offset the lower wages.</p><p>5.A monkey could do that job.</p><p> Yes, probably, but you couldn't pay me enough to do that mind numbing soulless task. Hence the higher pay for those that can do it.</p><p>6. I can negotiate my own deal.</p><p> Imagine 100,000 people tromping into HR every 1,2,3 or 4 years trying to renew their contract. Not exactly an efficient way to run a major corporation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="derklug, post: 16302659, member: 138123"] I am not your typical union guy, I am a conservative, hard working, Republican, union steward. There is a lot of misinformation flying around, so I will see what I can clear up. 1. You can't fire a union employee. Yes, you can. Most employees are fired for time and attendance which is cut and dried and the union can't help them. Other problems can cause termination if the supervisor documents the infractions and follows the company policies to fire the employee. The problem is that most lower and middle management are just as lazy as the people they are complaining about and don't do their part to solve the problem. 2.Unions fight for the bad employees. Yes, we do. You don't have to fight for the good employees because they don't get in trouble. If there is a bad employee and management has done their due diligence, we put up a token fight. If management has not done their part, we defend the member tooth and nail so that later people don't start getting fired on a supervisor's whim. 3. Unions don't impact non-union wages Wages and benefits in a union shop are generally higher than a non union shop. I am not a believer in the mantra that without unions every job would go to minimum wage with no benefits, but I do believe that the union scale makes non-union shops keep pace in order to keep workers and keep unions out. 4.Unions send jobs overseas. A lot goes into a companies decision to move a plant overseas. You can find areas around the world where people will work for pennies an hour. Often the labor rates alone are not enough to move a plant. Environmental regulations, taxes, utility rates all play a roll in making the decision to move a plant. We still have manufacturing in the US because our quality and productivity generally offset the lower wages. 5.A monkey could do that job. Yes, probably, but you couldn't pay me enough to do that mind numbing soulless task. Hence the higher pay for those that can do it. 6. I can negotiate my own deal. Imagine 100,000 people tromping into HR every 1,2,3 or 4 years trying to renew their contract. Not exactly an efficient way to run a major corporation. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Forums
SVTPerformance's Chain of Restaurants
Road Side Pub
General Motors Strike
Top