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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 16280900" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>Lol. It’s not hard to get within .25 second pausing a video on YouTube of a car running a lap bud. We don’t need stop watches for that.</p><p></p><p>Seeing that the mustang ran the circuit in 1:22 or less, that is a huge indicator of what it can do. Period. End the discussion and admit that is a very fast lap for a ~4225lbs car. Hell let’s say 4175lbs being a carbon car. No one knows the carbon cars weight yet so whatever.</p><p></p><p>On to pulling weight, it’s easy to pull 500 lbs out of the car if you have the money and will use the car as an expensive track toy. Notice who I tagged. [USER=138337]@13COBRA[/USER] has said himself that he does expensive track toy day runs with friends/associates running really built really expensive cars. Mclaren, lambo, Ferrari etc track toys are what he plays with in his viper. Look up his posts just 2 pages ago. Those viper builds would cost more than many peoples homes.</p><p></p><p>I tagged him about pulling 500lbs out because 1. He has the means. 2. He has the vision and has stated it before.</p><p></p><p>Not to be a dick, but what are you trying to put on blast from my post? I’d humor the idea that I could try to appease your reading disposition but honestly I don’t care.</p><p></p><p>Lastly regarding the magic of the gtr in 2008, it was big power for the times. Z06 made 505 and zr1 in 2010 made 638hp. 485 and later 565 was about as much as you got back then. The veyron only made 1001hp in 05-08. The vetesse was 1200. Today the Chiron makes 1500hp as the base car.</p><p></p><p>A 2008 mustang gt made 300hp. A gt500 made 500hp. The gtr at 485hp was high for the time. A 911 turbo made 480hp in 2008. Don’t shrug off my analogy about good power and digital grip being the key to the gtr, and later the gtr nismo added braking and downforce improvements followed by hp. Digital grip can come from smart awd, or in the gt500’s case, compute designed and honed carbon fiber wheels riding on custom compute aided design tires and most importantly, computer designed downforce and magnetic digital shocks coupled with driving modes, again digitally produced and established via computer aided programming, sampling, and engineering. Yes the parts are physical, but the entire process was greatly digitally designed, and real world tested. Grip in the gtr is far better than in say a fusion sport awd because it’s not the awd that is important, it’s the setup, calibration, efficiency, and type of honing and programming done with the awd system. A 1992 Subaru Legacy also has awd. A gtr it is not. Nissan has been doing lots of digital and mechanical engineering to make their awd skyline systems very impressive and capable. Ford has applied that level of digital and mechanical prowess to designing this gt500 and is also trying to slot a nice solid power plant in. That was my point. </p><p></p><p>But anyways it’s whatever, I just find it funny you called me out on 3-4 things that you had no reason to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 16280900, member: 68944"] Lol. It’s not hard to get within .25 second pausing a video on YouTube of a car running a lap bud. We don’t need stop watches for that. Seeing that the mustang ran the circuit in 1:22 or less, that is a huge indicator of what it can do. Period. End the discussion and admit that is a very fast lap for a ~4225lbs car. Hell let’s say 4175lbs being a carbon car. No one knows the carbon cars weight yet so whatever. On to pulling weight, it’s easy to pull 500 lbs out of the car if you have the money and will use the car as an expensive track toy. Notice who I tagged. [USER=138337]@13COBRA[/USER] has said himself that he does expensive track toy day runs with friends/associates running really built really expensive cars. Mclaren, lambo, Ferrari etc track toys are what he plays with in his viper. Look up his posts just 2 pages ago. Those viper builds would cost more than many peoples homes. I tagged him about pulling 500lbs out because 1. He has the means. 2. He has the vision and has stated it before. Not to be a dick, but what are you trying to put on blast from my post? I’d humor the idea that I could try to appease your reading disposition but honestly I don’t care. Lastly regarding the magic of the gtr in 2008, it was big power for the times. Z06 made 505 and zr1 in 2010 made 638hp. 485 and later 565 was about as much as you got back then. The veyron only made 1001hp in 05-08. The vetesse was 1200. Today the Chiron makes 1500hp as the base car. A 2008 mustang gt made 300hp. A gt500 made 500hp. The gtr at 485hp was high for the time. A 911 turbo made 480hp in 2008. Don’t shrug off my analogy about good power and digital grip being the key to the gtr, and later the gtr nismo added braking and downforce improvements followed by hp. Digital grip can come from smart awd, or in the gt500’s case, compute designed and honed carbon fiber wheels riding on custom compute aided design tires and most importantly, computer designed downforce and magnetic digital shocks coupled with driving modes, again digitally produced and established via computer aided programming, sampling, and engineering. Yes the parts are physical, but the entire process was greatly digitally designed, and real world tested. Grip in the gtr is far better than in say a fusion sport awd because it’s not the awd that is important, it’s the setup, calibration, efficiency, and type of honing and programming done with the awd system. A 1992 Subaru Legacy also has awd. A gtr it is not. Nissan has been doing lots of digital and mechanical engineering to make their awd skyline systems very impressive and capable. Ford has applied that level of digital and mechanical prowess to designing this gt500 and is also trying to slot a nice solid power plant in. That was my point. But anyways it’s whatever, I just find it funny you called me out on 3-4 things that you had no reason to. [/QUOTE]
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