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GT500 Will Kill GT350 Prices, No?
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<blockquote data-quote="Osiris" data-source="post: 15939006" data-attributes="member: 6537"><p>So explain Roush then. </p><p></p><p>The car (stage 3) is more powerful and faster in a straight line, the braking/handling is exceptional, and dare I say capable of turning it into a driver's race, yet...They can't EVER sell at their retail price and far often go unsold at dealers after a year or TWO and come with 5 figure discounts. </p><p></p><p>It's a fact. My brother is a Roush guy. Both of his cars were bought slightly used at prices FAR less than they were new:</p><p></p><p>2014 'Vert - 84K sticker - bought for 50K with 3k miles in 2016 - It's a 1 of 1 as equipped/color</p><p>2015 coupe - 74k sticker - bought for 38K with 11k miles about 8 months ago - it's a 1 of 1 as equipped/color</p><p></p><p>It sucks, because they're really awesome cars. But banks won't lend against them, insurance companies will only recognize them as regular cars unless you insure the adds as an extra rider, and they don't hold their value anywhere near those cars that say "Shelby" on the name, with the exception of maybe one, the P51 cars. </p><p></p><p>As for Shelbys...</p><p></p><p>'16 tech 350s with 20k+ miles are about 42-44k, most hover around 48-50k</p><p></p><p>Retail price of those was what, 58-60k? </p><p></p><p>My '16 tech stickered at $58,465. I bought it on 5/2017 for 52K with about 3800 miles on it. I don't consider ADMs as a part of the price because paying them is entirely optional. You either wait, or pay it. You can see what I chose. I wasn't going to pay (at the time) 10K (or) more for a 2017 simply to get the owner's kit and the coolers. Speaking of ADMs...How many PP2 owners are paying them? Probably none. </p><p></p><p></p><p>Blowers don't mean much because anyone can put one on any car. There are well built foxes that can outrun a GT350 on a track (seen it, just this past weekend). Slapping a blower on the PP2 isn't going to make any Shelby less valuable. The name will still carry value even if a faster car is built, and likely will, with the next generation Mustang. In regards to the GT500, perhaps the question is better asked of previous generation GT500 owners...Where do they see their values once this new car is on the road? Lebanon Ford will sell you a 700 HP Mustang GT for what, $38k? Why hasn't that tanked GT350 values? Or even GT500 values? Maybe there are more "purists" out there than you think?</p><p></p><p>The PP2 cars are about 54K loaded. Far too close to a GT350 for what you're getting, and next year, that car will be worth somewhere in the high 30's. Even if you went with a base PP2 you'd be better off with a '16 Tech (guess what, the PP2 doesn't come with coolers either hahaha) The PP2 exists because the Shelby is going away after '19, and it doesn't cost Ford much of anything to toss together some optional go-fast bits that can be added on per order. </p><p></p><p>The new GT500 is fishing for different game...My theory. It'll do what the 350 can, and more. But not likely everything, as well as the 350 can. I think the 350 will be better at smaller, tighter courses. Again, just my theory...and if the new car lowers the value, so be it. I sure didn't buy the car expecting an investment <em>right now</em>...But if I keep it 30 years, you can bet I'll make some money off of it...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Osiris, post: 15939006, member: 6537"] So explain Roush then. The car (stage 3) is more powerful and faster in a straight line, the braking/handling is exceptional, and dare I say capable of turning it into a driver's race, yet...They can't EVER sell at their retail price and far often go unsold at dealers after a year or TWO and come with 5 figure discounts. It's a fact. My brother is a Roush guy. Both of his cars were bought slightly used at prices FAR less than they were new: 2014 'Vert - 84K sticker - bought for 50K with 3k miles in 2016 - It's a 1 of 1 as equipped/color 2015 coupe - 74k sticker - bought for 38K with 11k miles about 8 months ago - it's a 1 of 1 as equipped/color It sucks, because they're really awesome cars. But banks won't lend against them, insurance companies will only recognize them as regular cars unless you insure the adds as an extra rider, and they don't hold their value anywhere near those cars that say "Shelby" on the name, with the exception of maybe one, the P51 cars. As for Shelbys... '16 tech 350s with 20k+ miles are about 42-44k, most hover around 48-50k Retail price of those was what, 58-60k? My '16 tech stickered at $58,465. I bought it on 5/2017 for 52K with about 3800 miles on it. I don't consider ADMs as a part of the price because paying them is entirely optional. You either wait, or pay it. You can see what I chose. I wasn't going to pay (at the time) 10K (or) more for a 2017 simply to get the owner's kit and the coolers. Speaking of ADMs...How many PP2 owners are paying them? Probably none. Blowers don't mean much because anyone can put one on any car. There are well built foxes that can outrun a GT350 on a track (seen it, just this past weekend). Slapping a blower on the PP2 isn't going to make any Shelby less valuable. The name will still carry value even if a faster car is built, and likely will, with the next generation Mustang. In regards to the GT500, perhaps the question is better asked of previous generation GT500 owners...Where do they see their values once this new car is on the road? Lebanon Ford will sell you a 700 HP Mustang GT for what, $38k? Why hasn't that tanked GT350 values? Or even GT500 values? Maybe there are more "purists" out there than you think? The PP2 cars are about 54K loaded. Far too close to a GT350 for what you're getting, and next year, that car will be worth somewhere in the high 30's. Even if you went with a base PP2 you'd be better off with a '16 Tech (guess what, the PP2 doesn't come with coolers either hahaha) The PP2 exists because the Shelby is going away after '19, and it doesn't cost Ford much of anything to toss together some optional go-fast bits that can be added on per order. The new GT500 is fishing for different game...My theory. It'll do what the 350 can, and more. But not likely everything, as well as the 350 can. I think the 350 will be better at smaller, tighter courses. Again, just my theory...and if the new car lowers the value, so be it. I sure didn't buy the car expecting an investment [i]right now[/i]...But if I keep it 30 years, you can bet I'll make some money off of it... [/QUOTE]
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