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I'm stuck between two rocks and a hard place. I need advice.
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<blockquote data-quote="TerminatoRS" data-source="post: 17030532" data-attributes="member: 195778"><p>Anywhere near a Dayton Freight facility? We're always looking for diesel techs. We don't pay the most, but the company and atmosphere is hard to beat. That's coming from someone who left UPS after almost 16 years, by the way. Fleet maintenance is boring, but consistent. Sure beats getting random team drivers showing up unannounced wanting a service done in an hour. Then finding they cut a hole in the floor so they can shit on top of the transmission without stopping.</p><p></p><p>The UPS thing , even though it looks shiny, is still a gamble. Maybe not so much in IA given the political atmosphere, but it certainly is in more major metro areas like Milwaukee. I spent all but one of my 16 years in management so my perspective probably doesn't line up as well under the circumstances, but it's a firsthand perspective nonetheless. </p><p></p><p>I did it all over my tenure. Loading, unloading, driving, training loaders and drivers, safety, payroll, operations...you name it. I tried to get into the shop, but I was told I was too valuable in operations and was on the short list to become a division manager. Oooo eee oooo. <em>Most</em> colleagues are good people who just want to get the job done and go home. However, there are plenty of whine-bags who put more effort into making everyone else's lives difficult than they do into minding their own damn business. Yeah, you have these people everywhere, but they're almost untouchable thanks to the umbrella they get to hide under at UPS. These days, it's gotten worse; I blame the caliber of new, soft employees coming through the door. The bar has been lowered in a big way. Not saying people need to run themselves ragged every day, but the amount of coddling and babysitting of adults I had to do made me sick. While the union stuff sounds nice and probably leads to more money and better bennies, it can also create a shitty work environment. One lazy nut swinger with some seniority gets to dump on everyone else and it takes an act of congress to hold him accountable. That leads to an "us versus them" situation where ultimately a status quo is established and senior, protected guy continues to drag his dick and the lower guy has to pick up his slack. It gets old in a hurry. Any amount of training, coaching, and/or discipline is met with animosity and entitlement. Everyone owes them something simply because they've held a job for a decade, often times with numerous "get of jail free cards" from the union. Keep in mind that at the end of the day, the union is a business too. They're no different from politicians. Make you feel warm and fuzzy, go to bat once in a while, but ultimately care most about making themselves look good and drumming up more incoming dues. After all, just like the big dogs at UPS, they've gotta put new roofs on their lake houses too.</p><p></p><p>Also keep in mind that given the size and affiliations of UPS, they'll be pushing even harder for EV and CNG stuff soon. I'm not sure what kind of training UPS offers, but they were never eager to open their pocketbook the whole time I worked there unless it directly and immediately benefitted their bottom line. Updating facilities, equipment, or just plain doing a cookout for employees was an uphill battle met with restrictions even though they're making money hand over fist. That's the big corporation crap others have already mentioned. If you were 15-20 years older and thinking about jumping ship, I'd probably tell you to stick it out. But if you're a self-motivated, hardworking, take the initiative type, I think you'll be frustrated by others around you who don't operate a nearly the same level yet get paid the same or more while getting pampered.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerminatoRS, post: 17030532, member: 195778"] Anywhere near a Dayton Freight facility? We're always looking for diesel techs. We don't pay the most, but the company and atmosphere is hard to beat. That's coming from someone who left UPS after almost 16 years, by the way. Fleet maintenance is boring, but consistent. Sure beats getting random team drivers showing up unannounced wanting a service done in an hour. Then finding they cut a hole in the floor so they can shit on top of the transmission without stopping. The UPS thing , even though it looks shiny, is still a gamble. Maybe not so much in IA given the political atmosphere, but it certainly is in more major metro areas like Milwaukee. I spent all but one of my 16 years in management so my perspective probably doesn't line up as well under the circumstances, but it's a firsthand perspective nonetheless. I did it all over my tenure. Loading, unloading, driving, training loaders and drivers, safety, payroll, operations...you name it. I tried to get into the shop, but I was told I was too valuable in operations and was on the short list to become a division manager. Oooo eee oooo. [I]Most[/I] colleagues are good people who just want to get the job done and go home. However, there are plenty of whine-bags who put more effort into making everyone else's lives difficult than they do into minding their own damn business. Yeah, you have these people everywhere, but they're almost untouchable thanks to the umbrella they get to hide under at UPS. These days, it's gotten worse; I blame the caliber of new, soft employees coming through the door. The bar has been lowered in a big way. Not saying people need to run themselves ragged every day, but the amount of coddling and babysitting of adults I had to do made me sick. While the union stuff sounds nice and probably leads to more money and better bennies, it can also create a shitty work environment. One lazy nut swinger with some seniority gets to dump on everyone else and it takes an act of congress to hold him accountable. That leads to an "us versus them" situation where ultimately a status quo is established and senior, protected guy continues to drag his dick and the lower guy has to pick up his slack. It gets old in a hurry. Any amount of training, coaching, and/or discipline is met with animosity and entitlement. Everyone owes them something simply because they've held a job for a decade, often times with numerous "get of jail free cards" from the union. Keep in mind that at the end of the day, the union is a business too. They're no different from politicians. Make you feel warm and fuzzy, go to bat once in a while, but ultimately care most about making themselves look good and drumming up more incoming dues. After all, just like the big dogs at UPS, they've gotta put new roofs on their lake houses too. Also keep in mind that given the size and affiliations of UPS, they'll be pushing even harder for EV and CNG stuff soon. I'm not sure what kind of training UPS offers, but they were never eager to open their pocketbook the whole time I worked there unless it directly and immediately benefitted their bottom line. Updating facilities, equipment, or just plain doing a cookout for employees was an uphill battle met with restrictions even though they're making money hand over fist. That's the big corporation crap others have already mentioned. If you were 15-20 years older and thinking about jumping ship, I'd probably tell you to stick it out. But if you're a self-motivated, hardworking, take the initiative type, I think you'll be frustrated by others around you who don't operate a nearly the same level yet get paid the same or more while getting pampered. [/QUOTE]
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