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SVTPerformance's Chain of Restaurants
The Blower Bistro
Injectors + BAP + E85 + serious boost; why is it considered a no-no by so many people?
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<blockquote data-quote="Kiohtee" data-source="post: 16194633" data-attributes="member: 103998"><p>Right. But what is that liability and/or reliability issue that can be backed by fact? Or even personal experience that isn't limited to just one or two examples out of many? I get that a BAP could expire and then you're on the hook for a new motor, but any number of things could go wrong instantly, also leaving me on the hook for a new motor. Just because there's a probability of it happening doesn't mean we should shun people away from the idea of doing it.</p><p></p><p>Now common sense dictates that of course if the probability starts to climb to an exponentially high number then maybe it's time to look into a more foolproof, robust system. But I feel like the guy below, he's on the right path with where this came from...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is where my initial theory lays with how the myth came to be. I would also rank oil pump gears as a myth to a certain extent. Yes there are obvious failures and nobody can deny how brittle the factory Ford gears are, but it's almost a universal thought that OPGs are recommended at a certain power level or when one decides to throw forced induction at the car. I promise you that OPGs don't read horsepower and/or torque levels and decide to come apart at a certain level. They also don't recognize that a car is boosted or sprayed. OPGs will fail solely on their ability to handle vibrations which are caused in large part due to bouncing off the limiter, two stepping, missing a shift, etc.</p><p></p><p>As you can probably conclude from this post, if you didn't already know, my car also retains the factory OPGs and CG. My thought process here was that it isn't quiet as violent as any blower car as far as vibrations and the 6R80 should keep itself in check well enough not to miss shift or bang the limiter. So far so good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kiohtee, post: 16194633, member: 103998"] Right. But what is that liability and/or reliability issue that can be backed by fact? Or even personal experience that isn't limited to just one or two examples out of many? I get that a BAP could expire and then you're on the hook for a new motor, but any number of things could go wrong instantly, also leaving me on the hook for a new motor. Just because there's a probability of it happening doesn't mean we should shun people away from the idea of doing it. Now common sense dictates that of course if the probability starts to climb to an exponentially high number then maybe it's time to look into a more foolproof, robust system. But I feel like the guy below, he's on the right path with where this came from... This is where my initial theory lays with how the myth came to be. I would also rank oil pump gears as a myth to a certain extent. Yes there are obvious failures and nobody can deny how brittle the factory Ford gears are, but it's almost a universal thought that OPGs are recommended at a certain power level or when one decides to throw forced induction at the car. I promise you that OPGs don't read horsepower and/or torque levels and decide to come apart at a certain level. They also don't recognize that a car is boosted or sprayed. OPGs will fail solely on their ability to handle vibrations which are caused in large part due to bouncing off the limiter, two stepping, missing a shift, etc. As you can probably conclude from this post, if you didn't already know, my car also retains the factory OPGs and CG. My thought process here was that it isn't quiet as violent as any blower car as far as vibrations and the 6R80 should keep itself in check well enough not to miss shift or bang the limiter. So far so good. [/QUOTE]
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