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<blockquote data-quote="Weather Man" data-source="post: 16926377" data-attributes="member: 137766"><p>Interesting reason behind Stellantis pulling lot ICE from CARB states.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/stellantis-makes-gas-models-order-only-for-dealers-in-non-carb-states/ar-AA1cNjsP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c94c0b2b6b11488c822ef5a9236b50a7&ei=26[/URL]</p><p></p><p>The <a href="https://delawarebusinesstimes.com/news/jeep-gas-delaware/" target="_blank"><em>Delaware Business Times</em> first reported</a> on the issue after finding out a <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/car-dealers/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">dealer</a> in Delaware "said he received notification last week from the brand’s parent company, Stellantis, that he could not receive regular shipments of two popular Jeep gasoline-powered models to stock on his lot 'because we are considered a ‘California state.'" The models cited were the two-door <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/wrangler/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Wrangler</a> Sport and Wrangler Rubicon, and the four-door Wrangler Sport, Sahara, and Rubicon. Instead, he'd be getting plenty of the <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/wrangler+4xe/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Wrangler 4xe</a> and <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/grand+cherokee+4xe/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Grand Cherokee 4xe</a>. The <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/dodge/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Dodge</a> Durang R/T and SRT trims also joined the dealer's forbidden list. As the story suggests, Delaware hasn't adopted CARB standards yet. State governor John Carney has said he plans on doing so.</p><p></p><p>Of note, this isn't about the new zero-emissions-vehicle standards coming into force in 2026. The roots of this go back to 2019, when California was duking it out with the Trump administration over the ability to set its own <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/tag/emissions+standards/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">emissions standards</a>. The short story is that the Trump administration <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/rolls_royce/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">rolled</a> back the ramp-up of <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/category/fuel-efficiency/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">fuel economy</a> standards set by the previous Obama administration, and had revoked California's <a href="https://www.epa.gov/" target="_blank">EPA</a> waiver allowing the state to set its chosen levels. <a href="https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/512414-california-finalizes-fuel-efficiency-deal-with-five-automakers/" target="_blank">California went back to the Obama administration</a> standards, <a href="https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/07/25/california-and-major-automakers-reach-groundbreaking-framework-agreement-on-clean-emission-standards/" target="_blank">then signed agreements with five automakers</a> — Ford, Honda, BMW, and <a href="https://www.volkswagengroupamerica.com/" target="_blank">Volkswagen Group of America</a> initially, <a href="https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/framework-agreements-clean-cars" target="_blank">then adding Volvo</a> — that agreed to abide by a slightly relaxed set of those Obama-era standards for the years 2021 through 2026. The deal was called the California Framework.</p><p></p><p>Stellantis wouldn't be an official entity until a year later. The automaker asked California in 2021 if it could join the agreement, California turned down the request, saying it wasn't accepting more parties. </p><p></p><p></p><p>That's the history, which brings us to the allocation matter today. The agreement between CARB and the five automakers contained a clause that allowed the automakers to calculate their CARB-state emissions levels using their nationwide sales, not just their sales in CARB states. In <a href="https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/clean-car-framework-documents-all-bmw-ford-honda-volvo-vw.pdf" target="_blank">the contract's section on Ford</a>, a paragraph 29 states, "Ford agrees to maintain an average yearly reduction in GHG emissions from its fleet sold nationwide (light-duty passenger cars, light-duty trucks, and medium-duty passenger vehicles) for model years 2021 through 2026." That is, Ford's sales of the <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/ford/f_150+lightning/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">F-150 Lightning</a> and <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/ford/mustang+mach_e/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Mustang Mach-E</a> nationwide help offset the emissions of the standard F-150s and Expeditions Ford sells in CARB states. The other four California Framework automakers can do the equivalent with their model lines. Carmakers not a party to the framework have to do the emissions math based only on sales in California and the other 14 states. <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/category/gm/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">GM</a> and Toyota aren't parties to the 2019 framework and at first challenged California's rulemaking ability. <a href="https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/09/gm-california-vehicle-emissions-standards/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618" target="_blank">Both have since agreed to support</a> California's efforts.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Weather Man, post: 16926377, member: 137766"] Interesting reason behind Stellantis pulling lot ICE from CARB states. [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/stellantis-makes-gas-models-order-only-for-dealers-in-non-carb-states/ar-AA1cNjsP?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=c94c0b2b6b11488c822ef5a9236b50a7&ei=26[/URL] The [URL='https://delawarebusinesstimes.com/news/jeep-gas-delaware/'][I]Delaware Business Times[/I] first reported[/URL] on the issue after finding out a [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/car-dealers/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']dealer[/URL] in Delaware "said he received notification last week from the brand’s parent company, Stellantis, that he could not receive regular shipments of two popular Jeep gasoline-powered models to stock on his lot 'because we are considered a ‘California state.'" The models cited were the two-door [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/wrangler/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Wrangler[/URL] Sport and Wrangler Rubicon, and the four-door Wrangler Sport, Sahara, and Rubicon. Instead, he'd be getting plenty of the [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/wrangler+4xe/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Wrangler 4xe[/URL] and [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/jeep/grand+cherokee+4xe/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Grand Cherokee 4xe[/URL]. The [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/dodge/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Dodge[/URL] Durang R/T and SRT trims also joined the dealer's forbidden list. As the story suggests, Delaware hasn't adopted CARB standards yet. State governor John Carney has said he plans on doing so. Of note, this isn't about the new zero-emissions-vehicle standards coming into force in 2026. The roots of this go back to 2019, when California was duking it out with the Trump administration over the ability to set its own [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/tag/emissions+standards/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']emissions standards[/URL]. The short story is that the Trump administration [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/rolls_royce/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']rolled[/URL] back the ramp-up of [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/category/fuel-efficiency/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']fuel economy[/URL] standards set by the previous Obama administration, and had revoked California's [URL='https://www.epa.gov/']EPA[/URL] waiver allowing the state to set its chosen levels. [URL='https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/512414-california-finalizes-fuel-efficiency-deal-with-five-automakers/']California went back to the Obama administration[/URL] standards, [URL='https://www.gov.ca.gov/2019/07/25/california-and-major-automakers-reach-groundbreaking-framework-agreement-on-clean-emission-standards/']then signed agreements with five automakers[/URL] — Ford, Honda, BMW, and [URL='https://www.volkswagengroupamerica.com/']Volkswagen Group of America[/URL] initially, [URL='https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/news/framework-agreements-clean-cars']then adding Volvo[/URL] — that agreed to abide by a slightly relaxed set of those Obama-era standards for the years 2021 through 2026. The deal was called the California Framework. Stellantis wouldn't be an official entity until a year later. The automaker asked California in 2021 if it could join the agreement, California turned down the request, saying it wasn't accepting more parties. That's the history, which brings us to the allocation matter today. The agreement between CARB and the five automakers contained a clause that allowed the automakers to calculate their CARB-state emissions levels using their nationwide sales, not just their sales in CARB states. In [URL='https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/sites/default/files/2020-08/clean-car-framework-documents-all-bmw-ford-honda-volvo-vw.pdf']the contract's section on Ford[/URL], a paragraph 29 states, "Ford agrees to maintain an average yearly reduction in GHG emissions from its fleet sold nationwide (light-duty passenger cars, light-duty trucks, and medium-duty passenger vehicles) for model years 2021 through 2026." That is, Ford's sales of the [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/ford/f_150+lightning/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']F-150 Lightning[/URL] and [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/ford/mustang+mach_e/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Mustang Mach-E[/URL] nationwide help offset the emissions of the standard F-150s and Expeditions Ford sells in CARB states. The other four California Framework automakers can do the equivalent with their model lines. Carmakers not a party to the framework have to do the emissions math based only on sales in California and the other 14 states. [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/category/gm/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']GM[/URL] and Toyota aren't parties to the 2019 framework and at first challenged California's rulemaking ability. [URL='https://www.autoblog.com/2021/06/09/gm-california-vehicle-emissions-standards/?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000618']Both have since agreed to support[/URL] California's efforts. [/QUOTE]
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