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2020+ Shelby GT500 Mustang
Is "no manual available" a deal-breaker for you regarding whether you'll purchase a new 2020 GT500?
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<blockquote data-quote="Cman01" data-source="post: 16102430" data-attributes="member: 138028"><p>I wouldn't have a problem or issue flicking paddles if this car only comes in a DCT, however I wonder how refined this gearbox would be compared to other DCT's.</p><p></p><p>Ford have said 100ms shift times...………….well I looked into it and the more refined DCT's are doing 40-80ms. You may not think 20-60ms difference in shift times is a big deal but it is. When you pull that paddle that shift better happen without delay and 100ms shifts is kinda long in the DCT world.</p><p></p><p>Yes, most of us want a manual but like someone said at these power/torque levels a DCT just gets it done without human errors from rowing your own gears.</p><p></p><p>For those not too familiar with DCT:</p><p></p><p><a href="https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/dual-clutch-got-you-confused-youre-not-alone" target="_blank">Dual-clutch automatics got you confused? You’re not alone</a></p><p></p><p>Chris Harris driving Ferrari's F12 TDF and 812 Superfast (both 700+hp cars with the performance #'s to match...…………..can the new GT500 touch them?):</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]XwuqcAxtsso[/MEDIA] (@5:15 listen to what he says when driving the F12 TDF)</p><p></p><p>812 Superfast (replaces the F12 TDF), the gearbox in this car has been revised with lower gear ratios and faster shifts, Superfast DCT rips off shifts in 40ms.</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]b1YcwlmFEy8[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p>I'm currently in love with a Superfast, wicked car and if I hit the lottery big I'm putting one in my garage.</p><p></p><p>Yes, these are $400K+ cars vs. maybe a $100K GT500, we're just talking DCT to DCT and I think Ford will have a lot of work to do not just with the engine to get the #'s they want but getting that DCT to rip off shifts like the best exotics and survive...………...tall order but kudos to them if they pull it off.</p><p></p><p>Tony</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cman01, post: 16102430, member: 138028"] I wouldn't have a problem or issue flicking paddles if this car only comes in a DCT, however I wonder how refined this gearbox would be compared to other DCT's. Ford have said 100ms shift times...………….well I looked into it and the more refined DCT's are doing 40-80ms. You may not think 20-60ms difference in shift times is a big deal but it is. When you pull that paddle that shift better happen without delay and 100ms shifts is kinda long in the DCT world. Yes, most of us want a manual but like someone said at these power/torque levels a DCT just gets it done without human errors from rowing your own gears. For those not too familiar with DCT: [URL='https://driving.ca/auto-news/news/dual-clutch-got-you-confused-youre-not-alone']Dual-clutch automatics got you confused? You’re not alone[/URL] Chris Harris driving Ferrari's F12 TDF and 812 Superfast (both 700+hp cars with the performance #'s to match...…………..can the new GT500 touch them?): [MEDIA=youtube]XwuqcAxtsso[/MEDIA] (@5:15 listen to what he says when driving the F12 TDF) 812 Superfast (replaces the F12 TDF), the gearbox in this car has been revised with lower gear ratios and faster shifts, Superfast DCT rips off shifts in 40ms. [MEDIA=youtube]b1YcwlmFEy8[/MEDIA] I'm currently in love with a Superfast, wicked car and if I hit the lottery big I'm putting one in my garage. Yes, these are $400K+ cars vs. maybe a $100K GT500, we're just talking DCT to DCT and I think Ford will have a lot of work to do not just with the engine to get the #'s they want but getting that DCT to rip off shifts like the best exotics and survive...………...tall order but kudos to them if they pull it off. Tony [/QUOTE]
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