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<blockquote data-quote="NMB2" data-source="post: 16199607" data-attributes="member: 163138"><p>Sam Desantos is not being honest with you about the J2Fab unit. I was made aware by a customer of his claims that you are now repeating in here.</p><p></p><p>I called the supplier that he buys his housings from to confirm what components he is purchasing. I then called Sam himself as a secret shopper to see what he had to say.</p><p></p><p>Sams business model is to prop himself up as some type of Robin Hood by offering the "exact" same as the bigger names without charging for a name. He bashed J2, Nations, Mechman, and Singer to me on the phone, claiming us all to be either middle men or basic OEM builders.</p><p></p><p>I can tell you with absolute certainty that what he is selling you is not what you are getting from J2. I know this firstly because of his pricing. The parts in a J2 unit cost more than what he is charging for a complete unit.</p><p></p><p>Secondly, I asked him specifics about what is inside of his and how it was the same as J2. This confirmed my suspicions that it is most certainly not the same.</p><p></p><p>After I outlined the differences with him between the J2 and his he could only muster up... "well, I was not aware of that, but mine will still do the same thing"</p><p></p><p>He is using an OEM Denso rotor. J2Fab is not. The J2 rotor is lower resistance and larger diameter. This is what is required to hit the rated Amp outputs and such high idle outputs.</p><p></p><p>He is using an OEM Denso stator. Once again, J2 is a custom wind. OEM denso stators do not perform the way that the aftermarket winds do.</p><p></p><p>Bearings. I would suspect he is using WBD based on my convo with our supplier. J2Fab uses only Koyo and NSK premium. I spin these units to 25,000rpm...there is no place to cheap out on bearings.</p><p></p><p>Last, but certainly not least..... Rectifiers. He is using cheap, bottom of the barrel aluminum rectifier plates with cheap 40/50a diodes.</p><p></p><p>All high end hairpin units...be it J2Fab, Excessive Amperage, Singer, JS......all of us. We ALL use solid copper rectifier plates with a different diode, and many of us, myself included, uses press fit 70A diodes.</p><p></p><p>If you want to know whats in a J2 unit and how it differs from others, call or email and ask.</p><p></p><p>Getting your information from somebody using the J2 brand in a way to prop up their cheap alternative just gets you misinformation.</p><p></p><p>Since the launch of the J2 hairpin, there has been about 250-260 units put out into production.</p><p></p><p>Aside from some of the belt alignment quirks and wiring quirks from the first batch that were solved there has been ZERO failures or warranty claims of any kind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NMB2, post: 16199607, member: 163138"] Sam Desantos is not being honest with you about the J2Fab unit. I was made aware by a customer of his claims that you are now repeating in here. I called the supplier that he buys his housings from to confirm what components he is purchasing. I then called Sam himself as a secret shopper to see what he had to say. Sams business model is to prop himself up as some type of Robin Hood by offering the "exact" same as the bigger names without charging for a name. He bashed J2, Nations, Mechman, and Singer to me on the phone, claiming us all to be either middle men or basic OEM builders. I can tell you with absolute certainty that what he is selling you is not what you are getting from J2. I know this firstly because of his pricing. The parts in a J2 unit cost more than what he is charging for a complete unit. Secondly, I asked him specifics about what is inside of his and how it was the same as J2. This confirmed my suspicions that it is most certainly not the same. After I outlined the differences with him between the J2 and his he could only muster up... "well, I was not aware of that, but mine will still do the same thing" He is using an OEM Denso rotor. J2Fab is not. The J2 rotor is lower resistance and larger diameter. This is what is required to hit the rated Amp outputs and such high idle outputs. He is using an OEM Denso stator. Once again, J2 is a custom wind. OEM denso stators do not perform the way that the aftermarket winds do. Bearings. I would suspect he is using WBD based on my convo with our supplier. J2Fab uses only Koyo and NSK premium. I spin these units to 25,000rpm...there is no place to cheap out on bearings. Last, but certainly not least..... Rectifiers. He is using cheap, bottom of the barrel aluminum rectifier plates with cheap 40/50a diodes. All high end hairpin units...be it J2Fab, Excessive Amperage, Singer, JS......all of us. We ALL use solid copper rectifier plates with a different diode, and many of us, myself included, uses press fit 70A diodes. If you want to know whats in a J2 unit and how it differs from others, call or email and ask. Getting your information from somebody using the J2 brand in a way to prop up their cheap alternative just gets you misinformation. Since the launch of the J2 hairpin, there has been about 250-260 units put out into production. Aside from some of the belt alignment quirks and wiring quirks from the first batch that were solved there has been ZERO failures or warranty claims of any kind. [/QUOTE]
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