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<blockquote data-quote="NyteByte" data-source="post: 2128337" data-attributes="member: 10381"><p>I guess you've never been to any large corporations who are running modern applications on the back-end (NOT old legacy apps still running on UNIX).</p><p></p><p>I do consulting for many large banks and large associations. One of them has a 2.6 billion record database (yes "billion") that is running on Windows 2003 and Microsoft SQL Server 2000 in a clustered environment on two 8-way SMP machines with 24 Gb of RAM each. I helped convert them away from UNIX to Windows and things run MUCH better. They also run a HUGE Web site on Windows running IIS. They never have any problems.</p><p></p><p>If you don't consider those mission critical applications, then you need to continue to "educate yourself" as you claim to do. If you walked into those IT departments and tried to preach the Mac to them, you'd be laughed right out the door. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I've worked with OSX enough to know its security features are just very basic. They do the job, but they don't even come close to Windows. Also, you provided a link to some guys single paragraph Weblog which claims OSX is the most secure OS. If you consider that "proof", you've got to be joking. An operating system's security features go far beyond the ability to deal with "overt digital attacks". That's just a small part of "security". Your focus is WAY too narrow. </p><p></p><p>The fact is that OSX doesn't even come close to Windows with its security features. Most of those features don't even exist on the Mac.</p><p></p><p>I have a guy who works for me who is a "Mac expert" (since we have two Macs to support). He has almost 8 years of experience working with Macs, so I figured he'd be a good resource. I asked him if the OSX has anything like Windows Group Policies and Active Directory and he said "no way". I even looked through some of his books that covered OSX security and they confirmed this fact.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you're talking about basic OS features such as memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking, then yes, the Mac finally now has those features with OSX. But my point was that Windows had those same features for almost 10 years before OSX even existed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That statement doesn't even make sense. The ability of an OS to manage virtual memory has nothing to do with CPU architecture.</p><p></p><p>When it comes to these Mac vs PC arguments, one thing I've learned is that it's totally pointless to even have the discussion. Mac enthusiasts will ALWAYS try to make themselves (and everyone else) believe that Apple is king and the Mac is some kind of end-all, god like computing platform. It’s akin to ricers believing their Civics are somehow superior to Cobras and Vettes while claiming domestic owners "know nothing" about the topic.</p><p></p><p>In reality, Mac's are decent, but they are way overpriced, over hyped, niche market machines.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="NyteByte, post: 2128337, member: 10381"] I guess you've never been to any large corporations who are running modern applications on the back-end (NOT old legacy apps still running on UNIX). I do consulting for many large banks and large associations. One of them has a 2.6 billion record database (yes "billion") that is running on Windows 2003 and Microsoft SQL Server 2000 in a clustered environment on two 8-way SMP machines with 24 Gb of RAM each. I helped convert them away from UNIX to Windows and things run MUCH better. They also run a HUGE Web site on Windows running IIS. They never have any problems. If you don't consider those mission critical applications, then you need to continue to "educate yourself" as you claim to do. If you walked into those IT departments and tried to preach the Mac to them, you'd be laughed right out the door. I've worked with OSX enough to know its security features are just very basic. They do the job, but they don't even come close to Windows. Also, you provided a link to some guys single paragraph Weblog which claims OSX is the most secure OS. If you consider that "proof", you've got to be joking. An operating system's security features go far beyond the ability to deal with "overt digital attacks". That's just a small part of "security". Your focus is WAY too narrow. The fact is that OSX doesn't even come close to Windows with its security features. Most of those features don't even exist on the Mac. I have a guy who works for me who is a "Mac expert" (since we have two Macs to support). He has almost 8 years of experience working with Macs, so I figured he'd be a good resource. I asked him if the OSX has anything like Windows Group Policies and Active Directory and he said "no way". I even looked through some of his books that covered OSX security and they confirmed this fact. If you're talking about basic OS features such as memory protection and pre-emptive multitasking, then yes, the Mac finally now has those features with OSX. But my point was that Windows had those same features for almost 10 years before OSX even existed. That statement doesn't even make sense. The ability of an OS to manage virtual memory has nothing to do with CPU architecture. When it comes to these Mac vs PC arguments, one thing I've learned is that it's totally pointless to even have the discussion. Mac enthusiasts will ALWAYS try to make themselves (and everyone else) believe that Apple is king and the Mac is some kind of end-all, god like computing platform. It’s akin to ricers believing their Civics are somehow superior to Cobras and Vettes while claiming domestic owners "know nothing" about the topic. In reality, Mac's are decent, but they are way overpriced, over hyped, niche market machines. [/QUOTE]
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