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Mach 1 vs M3
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<blockquote data-quote="Fenixfire" data-source="post: 13180733" data-attributes="member: 37891"><p>Lol, e46 M3 is unbeatable!! I just checked the curb weight. The mach is actually slightly lighter than an M3 so it doesnt have a weight advantage. Its also well known that the mach 1s were way underrated from the factory at 305 hp. They make 330+ hp which is the same as the M3s inline six. The biggest difference is that the mach has a 100 lb ft torque advantage over the M3. The machs v8 also has a better power curve than the M3s inline six. The machs suspension has stiffer front springs and softer rear springs geared toward better weight transfer which is meant for........you guessed it, drag racing! I dont deny that the M3 is a better balanced car and will out handle a mach any day of the week, but it will NOT out launch a mach 1. Sorry, but you are smoking pot in that regard. </p><p></p><p>So lets review........</p><p></p><p>Stock for stock...</p><p></p><p>Mach 1 has weight advantage</p><p>Mach 1 makes same whp as e46 M3</p><p>Mach 1 has huge torque advantage (roughly 100 lb ft.)</p><p>Mach 1 has better power curve</p><p>Mach 1 is geared more aggressively (3.37 1st gear + 3.55 rear gear)</p><p>Mach 1 has drag oriented suspension</p><p></p><p>but M3 will out launch and is faster than Mach 1? Sorry, but no........</p><p></p><p>M3 wins in the twisties, but in a straight line given equal drivers a mach 1 wins every time. Given the above facts its not even up for debate and the fact that you will try to debate it just makes you look silly and biased.</p><p></p><p>As I said before its still close enough to be a drivers race, because, lets be honest, there are some horrible drivers out there.</p><p></p><p>I have also personally raced an e46 M3 from a dig when I had a bone stock 04 Mach 1 manual. I had a car and ahalf on him out of the hole and kept pulling with a solid 3 cars on him by the time it was over. </p><p></p><p>If I still had that car, I would bet you a grand that I would have done the same to you. Sadly, I dont anymore and my current mach........well it wouldnt be very fair for you at all, Russianstang.</p><p></p><p>The mach 1 was built to go hard in a straight line and offer raw performance and power. The M3 was built to be a world class handler with poise and refinement. </p><p></p><p>Dont try to take away from what the mach was built for. The M3 is a much better car all around than the mach 1, but it also stickered for 20 grand more than the mach 1......so it should be.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Fenixfire, post: 13180733, member: 37891"] Lol, e46 M3 is unbeatable!! I just checked the curb weight. The mach is actually slightly lighter than an M3 so it doesnt have a weight advantage. Its also well known that the mach 1s were way underrated from the factory at 305 hp. They make 330+ hp which is the same as the M3s inline six. The biggest difference is that the mach has a 100 lb ft torque advantage over the M3. The machs v8 also has a better power curve than the M3s inline six. The machs suspension has stiffer front springs and softer rear springs geared toward better weight transfer which is meant for........you guessed it, drag racing! I dont deny that the M3 is a better balanced car and will out handle a mach any day of the week, but it will NOT out launch a mach 1. Sorry, but you are smoking pot in that regard. So lets review........ Stock for stock... Mach 1 has weight advantage Mach 1 makes same whp as e46 M3 Mach 1 has huge torque advantage (roughly 100 lb ft.) Mach 1 has better power curve Mach 1 is geared more aggressively (3.37 1st gear + 3.55 rear gear) Mach 1 has drag oriented suspension but M3 will out launch and is faster than Mach 1? Sorry, but no........ M3 wins in the twisties, but in a straight line given equal drivers a mach 1 wins every time. Given the above facts its not even up for debate and the fact that you will try to debate it just makes you look silly and biased. As I said before its still close enough to be a drivers race, because, lets be honest, there are some horrible drivers out there. I have also personally raced an e46 M3 from a dig when I had a bone stock 04 Mach 1 manual. I had a car and ahalf on him out of the hole and kept pulling with a solid 3 cars on him by the time it was over. If I still had that car, I would bet you a grand that I would have done the same to you. Sadly, I dont anymore and my current mach........well it wouldnt be very fair for you at all, Russianstang. The mach 1 was built to go hard in a straight line and offer raw performance and power. The M3 was built to be a world class handler with poise and refinement. Dont try to take away from what the mach was built for. The M3 is a much better car all around than the mach 1, but it also stickered for 20 grand more than the mach 1......so it should be. [/QUOTE]
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