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<blockquote data-quote="Outlaw99" data-source="post: 15153900" data-attributes="member: 6069"><p>my 2 cents.</p><p></p><p>first, and most important, that ****ing canadian accent...i swear if i hear "yoos guys" one more time im going to throw my remote through the tv. and that opening music is way creepy.</p><p></p><p></p><p>I am ex LEO. spent 11 years on the force. 8 months in the jail. the rest was divided up doing patrol, baliff and civil process. I spent 7 years on swat, my last command was assistant tactical commander, and i spent 6 years on the countys search and rescue, which 99% of the time, there was no rescue. only search, which was mostly evidentiary collection and preservation. mostly searches for missing people, which ended on finding a body. I have been state certified in interrogation tactics from salemburg nc. all that being said, here is my official take on the whole series.</p><p></p><p></p><p>It is very clear, the sheriff department had it out for avery, going back years. the deputy who originally arrested him back in 85, disregarded proceedures, as well as the whole department. they assumed guilt before any type of investigation. 18 years and 36 million dollars later....thats a pretty big motive for retribution if you ask me. he made the deputy, who is now sheriff look like a complete idiot, and a few detectives. I dont believe the sheriff ever let it go.</p><p></p><p>fast forward to the murder. during the interviews with avery, i did not see any triggers in his body language that would indicate to me any type of deception. he showed the palm of his hands several times, which can mean he is revealing himself in an honest way, or atleast he believes he is being honest. still, this doesnt mean he couldnt have done it. the interviews that the investigators conducted with avery are beyond my scope of understanding. they did everything in the book that you are instructed to NEVER do. you do not ever lead a suspect like they did in a confession. you especially dont do it while being video tapped. same with his 16 year old nephew. holy jesus how the feds do not nail that department on that alone is mind boggeling.</p><p></p><p>it is very unusual for a department to go out that many times to conduct searches. it borders on constitutionally offensive. i feel the key was definitely planted. 100% without a doubt. you dont miss something like that as many times as you had been out there before to search. It could have been detective lenk....who had a history of tampering with evidence before. but, it could have also been the older nephew, who lived next door who could have went over there at night to plant the key and shell casings.</p><p></p><p>i am not convinced that the test the FBI came up with in a few weeks to test for vile blood in accurate. I believe future technology will be available to disprove the FBI test. that just seems very odd to me. I believe the vile of old blood was definitely tampered with. ray charles could see that it has been opened and a needle injected into it. who had access to it? detective lenk.</p><p></p><p>you can not clean up blood. you might be able to mop it up. but it will always be there. she was not killed in the garage.</p><p></p><p>the purpose of a forensic scientist is to establish facts. not guilt. the detective that told her he needed her DNA in the house or garage....is so unethical that both her license to practice forensic science, and his ability to work in law enforcement should be revoked without question. that was a witch hunt.</p><p></p><p>no DNA on the bed. or in his trailer anywhere. the key was wiped clean? that speaks volumes. its easy to put someones dna on anything. grab a toothbrush, comb or anything and rub it. boom DNA.</p><p></p><p>I believe we have 2 things going on here.</p><p></p><p>1, i believe that she got in her car to leave, and passed by the older nephew who lived next door, who probably stopped her to have a conversation with her. maybe he told her he had another car to list. i believe he got in the car with her and they drove to the back of the salvage yard, where he possibly raped and killed her. that is why the blood was in the back oh the car. he hid the car back there knowing it would eventually be found.</p><p></p><p>the body was not burned in the fire pit. they found 3 locations with bones. i believe the body was burned in the back of the salvage yard in a burn barrel...and the remains were then placed in averys fire pit. </p><p></p><p>so ask yourself, who had the opportunity to do all of this? the older nephew. he had complete access to the property all hours of the night.</p><p></p><p>how come lie detectors were not used on anyone?</p><p></p><p>i also believe, the sheriff department wanted to make sure they nailed this guy this time....so, they may have manipulated the evidence to make sure it pointed to avery, all the while not even looking at the older nephew who is most likely the killer. they didnt want avery getting away this time and making them look like fools. had they just done their job, they could have arrested and charged the correct killer.</p><p></p><p>ill probably think of more and edit this later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Outlaw99, post: 15153900, member: 6069"] my 2 cents. first, and most important, that ****ing canadian accent...i swear if i hear "yoos guys" one more time im going to throw my remote through the tv. and that opening music is way creepy. I am ex LEO. spent 11 years on the force. 8 months in the jail. the rest was divided up doing patrol, baliff and civil process. I spent 7 years on swat, my last command was assistant tactical commander, and i spent 6 years on the countys search and rescue, which 99% of the time, there was no rescue. only search, which was mostly evidentiary collection and preservation. mostly searches for missing people, which ended on finding a body. I have been state certified in interrogation tactics from salemburg nc. all that being said, here is my official take on the whole series. It is very clear, the sheriff department had it out for avery, going back years. the deputy who originally arrested him back in 85, disregarded proceedures, as well as the whole department. they assumed guilt before any type of investigation. 18 years and 36 million dollars later....thats a pretty big motive for retribution if you ask me. he made the deputy, who is now sheriff look like a complete idiot, and a few detectives. I dont believe the sheriff ever let it go. fast forward to the murder. during the interviews with avery, i did not see any triggers in his body language that would indicate to me any type of deception. he showed the palm of his hands several times, which can mean he is revealing himself in an honest way, or atleast he believes he is being honest. still, this doesnt mean he couldnt have done it. the interviews that the investigators conducted with avery are beyond my scope of understanding. they did everything in the book that you are instructed to NEVER do. you do not ever lead a suspect like they did in a confession. you especially dont do it while being video tapped. same with his 16 year old nephew. holy jesus how the feds do not nail that department on that alone is mind boggeling. it is very unusual for a department to go out that many times to conduct searches. it borders on constitutionally offensive. i feel the key was definitely planted. 100% without a doubt. you dont miss something like that as many times as you had been out there before to search. It could have been detective lenk....who had a history of tampering with evidence before. but, it could have also been the older nephew, who lived next door who could have went over there at night to plant the key and shell casings. i am not convinced that the test the FBI came up with in a few weeks to test for vile blood in accurate. I believe future technology will be available to disprove the FBI test. that just seems very odd to me. I believe the vile of old blood was definitely tampered with. ray charles could see that it has been opened and a needle injected into it. who had access to it? detective lenk. you can not clean up blood. you might be able to mop it up. but it will always be there. she was not killed in the garage. the purpose of a forensic scientist is to establish facts. not guilt. the detective that told her he needed her DNA in the house or garage....is so unethical that both her license to practice forensic science, and his ability to work in law enforcement should be revoked without question. that was a witch hunt. no DNA on the bed. or in his trailer anywhere. the key was wiped clean? that speaks volumes. its easy to put someones dna on anything. grab a toothbrush, comb or anything and rub it. boom DNA. I believe we have 2 things going on here. 1, i believe that she got in her car to leave, and passed by the older nephew who lived next door, who probably stopped her to have a conversation with her. maybe he told her he had another car to list. i believe he got in the car with her and they drove to the back of the salvage yard, where he possibly raped and killed her. that is why the blood was in the back oh the car. he hid the car back there knowing it would eventually be found. the body was not burned in the fire pit. they found 3 locations with bones. i believe the body was burned in the back of the salvage yard in a burn barrel...and the remains were then placed in averys fire pit. so ask yourself, who had the opportunity to do all of this? the older nephew. he had complete access to the property all hours of the night. how come lie detectors were not used on anyone? i also believe, the sheriff department wanted to make sure they nailed this guy this time....so, they may have manipulated the evidence to make sure it pointed to avery, all the while not even looking at the older nephew who is most likely the killer. they didnt want avery getting away this time and making them look like fools. had they just done their job, they could have arrested and charged the correct killer. ill probably think of more and edit this later. [/QUOTE]
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