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<blockquote data-quote="MPH5.0" data-source="post: 9365350" data-attributes="member: 94665"><p>I just wanted to double check and get some other opinions. I am a SSG and never ever heard anything so stupid. This Soldier was on profile about 6 months ago for the same shoulder issue and he did the physical therapy and got better. Due to field time and other training commitments he couldn't take a PT test. Now 1SG wants him to take one and he strained his shoulder real bad and it just happens it happened a few days before a PT test.</p><p>Only thing AR 600-8-2 states is that you can flag a Soldier for failing a PT test, over weight, etc. This is what it says verbatim:</p><p></p><p>(1) Flags for APFT failure block promotion, reenlistment, and extension only. </p><p><strong>(2) A flag is not initiated if the soldier has a limiting physical profile that specifically prohibits taking the APFT.</strong> </p><p>b. Weight control. </p><p>(1) Flags for weight control block only attendance at full-time civil or military schooling, promotion, awards and </p><p>decorations, assumption of command, and reenlistment or extension. </p><p>(2) Soldiers attending a civil or military school on the date of the flag will not be removed from such schooling. </p><p>(3) Commanders may approve reenlistments and extensions under certain medical conditions as advised by the </p><p>supporting total Army career counselor. </p><p>c. Reassignment. </p><p>(1) HQDA will reassign soldiers returned to military control from dropped from the rolls (DFR). </p><p>(2) Soldiers in receipt of HQDA reassignment instructions may depart when their case moves into the punishment </p><p>phase if the punishment does not require the soldier’s continued presence. </p><p>(3) Major oversea commanders approve intra-command reassignments. </p><p>(4) Installation commanders approve intra-installation reassignments. </p><p>(5) Flagged soldiers may be reassigned if— </p><p>(a) The flag is based on APFT failure. </p><p>(b) The flag is based on entry in the weight control program. </p><p>(c) The flag case is in the punishment phase with no restraints on liberty imposed by civil court, court-martial, or </p><p>Article 15. </p><p>(d) Reassignment is deemed necessary by installation or major overseas commanders (within their command) for the </p><p>maintenance of discipline, morale, and unit order. </p><p>d. Advance or excess leave. </p><p>(1) The General Court-Martial Convening Authority (GCMCA) may direct excess leave to soldiers sentenced by </p><p>court-martial to dismissal or a punitive discharge when the sentenced has not yet been approved. </p><p>(2) The GCMCA or designee may grant an indefinite period of excess leave to soldiers awaiting administrative </p><p>discharge in accordance with AR 600–8–10. </p><p>(3) Commanders may grant advance or excess leave when emergencies exist. </p><p>e. Unqualified resignation, discharge, or retirement.Flagged soldiers may submit requests for consideration by </p><p>HQDA. </p><p>f. Entry on AD or ADT. </p><p>(1) Flagged ARNG and U.S. Army Reserve (USAR) soldiers may not apply for AD or ADT. </p><p>(2) HQDA may direct involuntary AD or ADT for flagged ARNG and USAR soldiers. </p><p>g. Awards and decorations.Retirement awards and decorations for valor may be processed and presented to flagged </p><p>soldiers. </p><p><strong>h. Erroneous flag will be declared void and of no effect.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MPH5.0, post: 9365350, member: 94665"] I just wanted to double check and get some other opinions. I am a SSG and never ever heard anything so stupid. This Soldier was on profile about 6 months ago for the same shoulder issue and he did the physical therapy and got better. Due to field time and other training commitments he couldn't take a PT test. Now 1SG wants him to take one and he strained his shoulder real bad and it just happens it happened a few days before a PT test. Only thing AR 600-8-2 states is that you can flag a Soldier for failing a PT test, over weight, etc. This is what it says verbatim: (1) Flags for APFT failure block promotion, reenlistment, and extension only. [B](2) A flag is not initiated if the soldier has a limiting physical profile that specifically prohibits taking the APFT.[/B] b. Weight control. (1) Flags for weight control block only attendance at full-time civil or military schooling, promotion, awards and decorations, assumption of command, and reenlistment or extension. (2) Soldiers attending a civil or military school on the date of the flag will not be removed from such schooling. (3) Commanders may approve reenlistments and extensions under certain medical conditions as advised by the supporting total Army career counselor. c. Reassignment. (1) HQDA will reassign soldiers returned to military control from dropped from the rolls (DFR). (2) Soldiers in receipt of HQDA reassignment instructions may depart when their case moves into the punishment phase if the punishment does not require the soldier’s continued presence. (3) Major oversea commanders approve intra-command reassignments. (4) Installation commanders approve intra-installation reassignments. (5) Flagged soldiers may be reassigned if— (a) The flag is based on APFT failure. (b) The flag is based on entry in the weight control program. (c) The flag case is in the punishment phase with no restraints on liberty imposed by civil court, court-martial, or Article 15. (d) Reassignment is deemed necessary by installation or major overseas commanders (within their command) for the maintenance of discipline, morale, and unit order. d. Advance or excess leave. (1) The General Court-Martial Convening Authority (GCMCA) may direct excess leave to soldiers sentenced by court-martial to dismissal or a punitive discharge when the sentenced has not yet been approved. (2) The GCMCA or designee may grant an indefinite period of excess leave to soldiers awaiting administrative discharge in accordance with AR 600–8–10. (3) Commanders may grant advance or excess leave when emergencies exist. e. Unqualified resignation, discharge, or retirement.Flagged soldiers may submit requests for consideration by HQDA. f. Entry on AD or ADT. (1) Flagged ARNG and U.S. Army Reserve (USAR) soldiers may not apply for AD or ADT. (2) HQDA may direct involuntary AD or ADT for flagged ARNG and USAR soldiers. g. Awards and decorations.Retirement awards and decorations for valor may be processed and presented to flagged soldiers. [B]h. Erroneous flag will be declared void and of no effect.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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