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<blockquote data-quote="wydopnthrtl" data-source="post: 4983427" data-attributes="member: 9419"><p>I want to personally thank Rachael. She (& I think Pete?) are stepping up to the plate for those of us who spent money and have been waiting for 5 months now.</p><p></p><p>Just a re-cap.. for some musings. </p><p>To lead everone to believe that it's a "new" product that is specifically made for MSX? Assumingly to *thier* standards?</p><p></p><p>I can't believe that I put so much blind faith into this "Billy". Had he actually developed a new 3" SS header I'd have waited w/o a peep. But to take a off the shelf pacesetter, rebox it, have some CRAPPY 2.5" mids made.. then pass it all off as if they had been working so hard? Wow. Was I a fool or what?</p><p></p><p>My status.. Rachael says I'll get my refund *in the box* with my mids. (Thanks again Rachael for your work in this) And as of yet Billy is not MAN ENOUGH to call me and speak directly with *HIS* paying customer. Honestly.. at this point I'm in the hole for $800 and all I have are some $450 pacesetters w/improper fitting bolts, and 02 extenders.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here is the original post link.. and some musing quotes:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332708&highlight=longtube" target="_blank">http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332708&highlight=longtube</a></p><p></p><p>Post #18 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"As for the ceramic coating, we get them from the manufacturer we are working with already ceramic coated."</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #22 "<em>Originally Posted by CuZzO99L</em></p><p><em>I dont want to sound stupid but what brand are they so I can tell every one what kind of setup Im about to buy from u. </em></p><p></p><p>"<span style="color: Red"><strong>These are going to be our own header..so they are MSX Headers</strong></span> :rockon: "</p><p></p><p>Post #23 "Any comments on how easy these will be to install? I've heard that the other brands (other than the newest JLP Bassani's) are somewhat difficult."</p><p></p><p></p><p>Post #24 <strong><span style="color: Red">"Well, from what I understand these will be about the same as far as install as any other header."</span></strong></p><p></p><p>Post #37 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"Yes they are stainless headers and will be ceramic coated.</strong>"</span></p><p></p><p>Post #43 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"Heres some other info on the headers, they are a carbon steel which will be ceramic coated inside and out. The collector is a full 3 inch slip fit design with a matching 3 inch mid pipe. The drivers side header is machined for the dip stick tube which makes the install a little easier. It also has the egr provision but we will include a egr plug for anyone who wishes to block it off. The headers will also come with new gaskets,bolts,o2 extensions and band clamps for the collector. During initial testing we have seen boost drops of about 1.5 to 2 pounds with these headers depending on modifications. We are doing final testing this week on the headers. Right now we are just testing different o2 sensor locations."</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #109 </p><p>'if it takes as long to get the headers to my house as it does to get dyno numbers or pictures of the dang things then we're going to have some huge issues."</p><p></p><p>Post #114 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"The mid pipes will be stainless, not coated."</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #123 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"Thanks guys yeah we were very impressed with the #'s as well, and for teh price their hard to beat "</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #125 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"As for comparing brands, were not going to get into that, we'll leave that up to you guys. Obviously they have a lot of R&D into them and the have their own reasons for that. As we mentioned before we wanted to get a nice quality header on the market that would be affordable and make good power."</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #131 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"I'm confused on the carbon steel/stainless steel comment."</strong></span></p><p></p><p>Post #141 <span style="color: Red"><strong>"The first 10 are being ordered now and will ship out on Dec 4th. Get in while the spots are still there!"</strong></span></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My head hurts now... Billy. Do whats right. Call me.</p><p></p><p>Rich</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="wydopnthrtl, post: 4983427, member: 9419"] I want to personally thank Rachael. She (& I think Pete?) are stepping up to the plate for those of us who spent money and have been waiting for 5 months now. Just a re-cap.. for some musings. To lead everone to believe that it's a "new" product that is specifically made for MSX? Assumingly to *thier* standards? I can't believe that I put so much blind faith into this "Billy". Had he actually developed a new 3" SS header I'd have waited w/o a peep. But to take a off the shelf pacesetter, rebox it, have some CRAPPY 2.5" mids made.. then pass it all off as if they had been working so hard? Wow. Was I a fool or what? My status.. Rachael says I'll get my refund *in the box* with my mids. (Thanks again Rachael for your work in this) And as of yet Billy is not MAN ENOUGH to call me and speak directly with *HIS* paying customer. Honestly.. at this point I'm in the hole for $800 and all I have are some $450 pacesetters w/improper fitting bolts, and 02 extenders. Here is the original post link.. and some musing quotes: [url]http://www.svtperformance.com/forums/showthread.php?t=332708&highlight=longtube[/url] Post #18 [COLOR="Red"][B]"As for the ceramic coating, we get them from the manufacturer we are working with already ceramic coated."[/B][/COLOR] Post #22 "[I]Originally Posted by CuZzO99L I dont want to sound stupid but what brand are they so I can tell every one what kind of setup Im about to buy from u. [/I] "[COLOR="Red"][B]These are going to be our own header..so they are MSX Headers[/B][/COLOR] :rockon: " Post #23 "Any comments on how easy these will be to install? I've heard that the other brands (other than the newest JLP Bassani's) are somewhat difficult." Post #24 [B][COLOR="Red"]"Well, from what I understand these will be about the same as far as install as any other header."[/COLOR][/B] Post #37 [COLOR="Red"][B]"Yes they are stainless headers and will be ceramic coated.[/B]"[/COLOR] Post #43 [COLOR="Red"][B]"Heres some other info on the headers, they are a carbon steel which will be ceramic coated inside and out. The collector is a full 3 inch slip fit design with a matching 3 inch mid pipe. The drivers side header is machined for the dip stick tube which makes the install a little easier. It also has the egr provision but we will include a egr plug for anyone who wishes to block it off. The headers will also come with new gaskets,bolts,o2 extensions and band clamps for the collector. During initial testing we have seen boost drops of about 1.5 to 2 pounds with these headers depending on modifications. We are doing final testing this week on the headers. Right now we are just testing different o2 sensor locations."[/B][/COLOR] Post #109 'if it takes as long to get the headers to my house as it does to get dyno numbers or pictures of the dang things then we're going to have some huge issues." Post #114 [COLOR="Red"][B]"The mid pipes will be stainless, not coated."[/B][/COLOR] Post #123 [COLOR="Red"][B]"Thanks guys yeah we were very impressed with the #'s as well, and for teh price their hard to beat "[/B][/COLOR] Post #125 [COLOR="Red"][B]"As for comparing brands, were not going to get into that, we'll leave that up to you guys. Obviously they have a lot of R&D into them and the have their own reasons for that. As we mentioned before we wanted to get a nice quality header on the market that would be affordable and make good power."[/B][/COLOR] Post #131 [COLOR="Red"][B]"I'm confused on the carbon steel/stainless steel comment."[/B][/COLOR] Post #141 [COLOR="Red"][B]"The first 10 are being ordered now and will ship out on Dec 4th. Get in while the spots are still there!"[/B][/COLOR] My head hurts now... Billy. Do whats right. Call me. Rich [/QUOTE]
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