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My Brand New F150, Problems Already
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<blockquote data-quote="USMC53CHIEF" data-source="post: 16726334" data-attributes="member: 113906"><p>Hey guys, thanks for the responses. I'll do my best to answer and clarify.</p><p></p><p><strong>1.)</strong> Yes, I fully agree with changing your own oil no later than 5k miles, monitoring these things yourself, etc. I also fully understand that there are a lot of variables in my first change that could throw off data, such as how much oil was in the filter even after I dumped it out, how much oil was added on the assembly line, etc. </p><p></p><p><strong>The issue was more with what Ford was allowing to be "normal." </strong>I find it hard to believe that a brand new engine, or worn out one for that matter could be considered operating within normal specs for 3,000 miles (from 7k-10k) down a quart of oil. I would understand if they "recommend an oil change at 7k instead of 10k, but it seems irrational to me to allow that. </p><p></p><p><strong>2.)</strong> Yeah, I am thinking software for the Sync issue myself. </p><p></p><p><strong>3.)</strong> I have no doubt that Ford will take care of the paint defects, it was kind of a cherry on top of a shit sandwich with everything else going on. I think more than the defect itself, the thing pissing me off the most was the dealer refusing to provide a loaner or even entertain that due to me not buying the truck there. The truck is literally a month old. Ford customer service basically advised they get complaints of dealerships not taking care of customers more times than not. This is due to them being privately owned. I work at Tesla and can tell you the way Elon does it with Tesla owned "stores" and not private dealerships is the way to go. </p><p></p><p><strong>4.) </strong>The rock chip incident just makes me want to punch an infant in the face. I used to live in Ohio and was a police officer. Under Ohio law, anything that comes off a truck that is in motion, striking another vehicle is considered a crash. It doesn't matter if the truck is hauling couches, cars or aggregate suck as rocks. I actually had a trucking company pay for a front end to be repainted due to this. I was able to get photos of the truck while in motion, the specific company and truck information. </p><p></p><p>In this particular incident with my new truck, the weather and location did not allow for me to gather the trucks information safely and the truck was completely covered in road grime and dirt. Plus, I'm not sure what Wyoming's laws say about situations like this. Here in Nevada, rock trucks seem to constitute about every 4th vehicle on the road. They all have signs on the back that say "Not responsible for rock chips." While I have little faith in any sticker a company places on a truck having any bearing on lawful liability, I wouldn't be surprised if the insane mining industry has actually lobbied for legislation that protects them from liability claims. </p><p></p><p><strong>5.)</strong> No, they did not perform the oil change and process yet. 1 reason being they were completely booked out for 5 weeks, the 2nd reason being I didn't want to throw the oil I literally just put in with 0 miles on it out and Ford wasn't giving me money back for it and I would have to pay for the new change at Ford as well until a warranty issue was discovered. I'll do it the next change. </p><p></p><p><strong>6.)</strong> Yes, the blue tape was to highlight areas of damage for Geico claims to get an idea of estimate. I was painters tape, did not cause any additional issues</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="USMC53CHIEF, post: 16726334, member: 113906"] Hey guys, thanks for the responses. I'll do my best to answer and clarify. [B]1.)[/B] Yes, I fully agree with changing your own oil no later than 5k miles, monitoring these things yourself, etc. I also fully understand that there are a lot of variables in my first change that could throw off data, such as how much oil was in the filter even after I dumped it out, how much oil was added on the assembly line, etc. [B]The issue was more with what Ford was allowing to be "normal." [/B]I find it hard to believe that a brand new engine, or worn out one for that matter could be considered operating within normal specs for 3,000 miles (from 7k-10k) down a quart of oil. I would understand if they "recommend an oil change at 7k instead of 10k, but it seems irrational to me to allow that. [B]2.)[/B] Yeah, I am thinking software for the Sync issue myself. [B]3.)[/B] I have no doubt that Ford will take care of the paint defects, it was kind of a cherry on top of a shit sandwich with everything else going on. I think more than the defect itself, the thing pissing me off the most was the dealer refusing to provide a loaner or even entertain that due to me not buying the truck there. The truck is literally a month old. Ford customer service basically advised they get complaints of dealerships not taking care of customers more times than not. This is due to them being privately owned. I work at Tesla and can tell you the way Elon does it with Tesla owned "stores" and not private dealerships is the way to go. [B]4.) [/B]The rock chip incident just makes me want to punch an infant in the face. I used to live in Ohio and was a police officer. Under Ohio law, anything that comes off a truck that is in motion, striking another vehicle is considered a crash. It doesn't matter if the truck is hauling couches, cars or aggregate suck as rocks. I actually had a trucking company pay for a front end to be repainted due to this. I was able to get photos of the truck while in motion, the specific company and truck information. In this particular incident with my new truck, the weather and location did not allow for me to gather the trucks information safely and the truck was completely covered in road grime and dirt. Plus, I'm not sure what Wyoming's laws say about situations like this. Here in Nevada, rock trucks seem to constitute about every 4th vehicle on the road. They all have signs on the back that say "Not responsible for rock chips." While I have little faith in any sticker a company places on a truck having any bearing on lawful liability, I wouldn't be surprised if the insane mining industry has actually lobbied for legislation that protects them from liability claims. [B]5.)[/B] No, they did not perform the oil change and process yet. 1 reason being they were completely booked out for 5 weeks, the 2nd reason being I didn't want to throw the oil I literally just put in with 0 miles on it out and Ford wasn't giving me money back for it and I would have to pay for the new change at Ford as well until a warranty issue was discovered. I'll do it the next change. [B]6.)[/B] Yes, the blue tape was to highlight areas of damage for Geico claims to get an idea of estimate. I was painters tape, did not cause any additional issues [/QUOTE]
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