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<blockquote data-quote="StevenStarke" data-source="post: 12189108" data-attributes="member: 127727"><p>I can assure you and anyone else I know what I'm talking about. I've 10+ years experience in the performance car industry. I'm a distributor for Tial, Precision, and many others. I know what things cost. I don't sell tint. I sell turbos, wastegates, intercoolers, injectors, computers, pistons/rods, etc... every day. I've also had extensive experience with ebay turbos, wastegates, and intercoolers that came off of customers cars. It's easy to get knock off stuff from over seas and then brand it as your own. Tial makes 44mm gates and 50mm bov's and were the original ones to do so. Precision recently came out with a 46mm gate that THEY designed. I have no problem with people designing their own product and then having it produced in china. But that's what happened with these turbos or these wastegates or these intercoolers. This is stuff being privately manufactured over seas and most likely does not have the quality control that other products designed in the USA have. Additionally, when you incorporate what it costs for all of the tubing, v band clamps and flanges and so on, it doesn't add up. JPC isn't making 100% mark up on their kit. I KNOW that for a fact because I know what turbocharger he uses I know that cost on that, the gate and the intercooler are over 2k alone. Plus tubing, man hours and misc items and cost is probably upwards of $5500.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here are some examples:</p><p></p><p>Quality Bar and plate intercooler core:</p><p><img src="https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e-woMPWqenw/TMrtChGSvII/AAAAAAAAAFw/PZcLammUSvk/s640/ets%252520core.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>Ebay style cheap bar and plate core:</p><p><img src="https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dZnL2pMAmBc/TMrtC24PWTI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NekRoJiLdb0/s640/ebay%252520core.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>Ebay style 4 cyl turbo header (with bracing):</p><p><img src="https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/400936_10151016328665706_1935440712_n.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>FAKE Tial wastegate:</p><p><a href="http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/526177416/New_TiAL_MVS_38mm_Turbocharger_Wastegate.html?s=p" target="_blank">New Tial Mvs 38mm Turbocharger Wastegate - Buy Wastegate,38mm Wastegate,Tial Wastegate Product on Alibaba.com</a></p><p></p><p></p><p>Fake/knockoff/garbage turbocharger:</p><p><a href="http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/564379574/Ball_bearing_turbocharger.html" target="_blank">Ball Bearing Turbocharger - Buy Turbocharger,Ball Bearing Product on Alibaba.com</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StevenStarke, post: 12189108, member: 127727"] I can assure you and anyone else I know what I'm talking about. I've 10+ years experience in the performance car industry. I'm a distributor for Tial, Precision, and many others. I know what things cost. I don't sell tint. I sell turbos, wastegates, intercoolers, injectors, computers, pistons/rods, etc... every day. I've also had extensive experience with ebay turbos, wastegates, and intercoolers that came off of customers cars. It's easy to get knock off stuff from over seas and then brand it as your own. Tial makes 44mm gates and 50mm bov's and were the original ones to do so. Precision recently came out with a 46mm gate that THEY designed. I have no problem with people designing their own product and then having it produced in china. But that's what happened with these turbos or these wastegates or these intercoolers. This is stuff being privately manufactured over seas and most likely does not have the quality control that other products designed in the USA have. Additionally, when you incorporate what it costs for all of the tubing, v band clamps and flanges and so on, it doesn't add up. JPC isn't making 100% mark up on their kit. I KNOW that for a fact because I know what turbocharger he uses I know that cost on that, the gate and the intercooler are over 2k alone. Plus tubing, man hours and misc items and cost is probably upwards of $5500. Here are some examples: Quality Bar and plate intercooler core: [IMG]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-e-woMPWqenw/TMrtChGSvII/AAAAAAAAAFw/PZcLammUSvk/s640/ets%252520core.jpg[/IMG] Ebay style cheap bar and plate core: [IMG]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dZnL2pMAmBc/TMrtC24PWTI/AAAAAAAAAF0/NekRoJiLdb0/s640/ebay%252520core.jpg[/IMG] Ebay style 4 cyl turbo header (with bracing): [IMG]https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/400936_10151016328665706_1935440712_n.jpg[/IMG] FAKE Tial wastegate: [url=http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/526177416/New_TiAL_MVS_38mm_Turbocharger_Wastegate.html?s=p]New Tial Mvs 38mm Turbocharger Wastegate - Buy Wastegate,38mm Wastegate,Tial Wastegate Product on Alibaba.com[/url] Fake/knockoff/garbage turbocharger: [url=http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/564379574/Ball_bearing_turbocharger.html]Ball Bearing Turbocharger - Buy Turbocharger,Ball Bearing Product on Alibaba.com[/url] [/QUOTE]
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