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Rumor: 7.0L N/A V8 in new GT500
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<blockquote data-quote="tt335ci03cobra" data-source="post: 15764575" data-attributes="member: 68944"><p>The talk of 7.0’s being to heavy is pretty laughable when the suggested alternative is electric.</p><p></p><p>An ls7 weighs less than a terminator mill or even an aluminum gt500 by hundreds of lbs.</p><p></p><p>Put 4v heads on a reworked aluminum 7.0L and your talking about a 525-550lbs engine tops. It could be done under 500lbs.</p><p></p><p>For comparison, An ls9 or Lsa weighs over 550lbs if I recall correct. Gt500 mills are 600-740lbs. (Alum 5.4 and 5.8 to iron 5.4) and 03 cobra mills were 640lbs.</p><p></p><p>A coyote touches 430lbs, and the voodoo 5.2 falls in around 415 lbs.</p><p></p><p>An electric battery pack/system/charging setup is 2500lbs in a Tesla for comparison, and 500lbs+ in a coeniggseg.</p><p></p><p>That all said, I think it would be awesome but very unlikely to see a boss 429 mustang again. That said, cylinder deactivation with 4 cylinder idling and eco cycles under partial load, (fully defeatable by command) direct injection and variable valve timing could have a chance of getting it to pull ~3.5L v6 fuel economy numbers of ~20 city, 30 highway. Nissan and Honda ~ 3.5 v6’s are getting 33-35mpg highway. Lop 10% off for the extra moving pistons’ drag, maybe add 2-3% for very high compression, etc.</p><p></p><p>The electric push is UN takeover garbage. To generate and store, then transfer the Electrical power needed to move a 3000-6000lbs vehicle 50-25 miles requires more emissions and pollution than burning a gallon of gas requires. Thanks to the catalytic converter, and the general efficiency of modern combustion engines, there is no need for this electric crap.</p><p></p><p>They killed the vw diesel because it was better than the electrical setups could deliver on true emission performance per mile, dieselgate sneak tune and all.</p><p></p><p>The guy going to jail for 7 Year’s from vw knowingly hid that the diesels were fractionally less efficient than advertised. Imagine being jailed for fudging performance numbers at your job by 1.3%.... so ridiculous. Meanwhile takata airbags killed people, no jail time for anyone. If you want to see corruption, investigate the cool loving caring globalists at the UN. They are the best people for the planet. Buy their electric cars, trust them. They have your best interest at mind.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tt335ci03cobra, post: 15764575, member: 68944"] The talk of 7.0’s being to heavy is pretty laughable when the suggested alternative is electric. An ls7 weighs less than a terminator mill or even an aluminum gt500 by hundreds of lbs. Put 4v heads on a reworked aluminum 7.0L and your talking about a 525-550lbs engine tops. It could be done under 500lbs. For comparison, An ls9 or Lsa weighs over 550lbs if I recall correct. Gt500 mills are 600-740lbs. (Alum 5.4 and 5.8 to iron 5.4) and 03 cobra mills were 640lbs. A coyote touches 430lbs, and the voodoo 5.2 falls in around 415 lbs. An electric battery pack/system/charging setup is 2500lbs in a Tesla for comparison, and 500lbs+ in a coeniggseg. That all said, I think it would be awesome but very unlikely to see a boss 429 mustang again. That said, cylinder deactivation with 4 cylinder idling and eco cycles under partial load, (fully defeatable by command) direct injection and variable valve timing could have a chance of getting it to pull ~3.5L v6 fuel economy numbers of ~20 city, 30 highway. Nissan and Honda ~ 3.5 v6’s are getting 33-35mpg highway. Lop 10% off for the extra moving pistons’ drag, maybe add 2-3% for very high compression, etc. The electric push is UN takeover garbage. To generate and store, then transfer the Electrical power needed to move a 3000-6000lbs vehicle 50-25 miles requires more emissions and pollution than burning a gallon of gas requires. Thanks to the catalytic converter, and the general efficiency of modern combustion engines, there is no need for this electric crap. They killed the vw diesel because it was better than the electrical setups could deliver on true emission performance per mile, dieselgate sneak tune and all. The guy going to jail for 7 Year’s from vw knowingly hid that the diesels were fractionally less efficient than advertised. Imagine being jailed for fudging performance numbers at your job by 1.3%.... so ridiculous. Meanwhile takata airbags killed people, no jail time for anyone. If you want to see corruption, investigate the cool loving caring globalists at the UN. They are the best people for the planet. Buy their electric cars, trust them. They have your best interest at mind. [/QUOTE]
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