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<blockquote data-quote="RDJ" data-source="post: 11573742" data-attributes="member: 5905"><p>ok so first let's take a look at some of your earlier crap:</p><p></p><p>All Marijuana IS cannabis. but not all Cannabis is Marjuana. MJ is a variety of the Cannabis sativa plant, just like hemp is. so your claim that Cannabis is "just a plant" and not marijuana is bullshit. here is a source for you <a href="http://www.iamshaman.com/hemp/hemp.htm" target="_blank">The Difference Between Hemp and Cannabis and Marijuana</a> Hemp and MJ both are illegal to grow in the U.S. but you can own products made out of hemp but not MJ.</p><p></p><p>now where is the link that it is the same as "Mexican tobacco"? and where is the link that shows it got its name from a racial slur of mexicans? </p><p></p><p>2) MJ is not physically addictive, this is probably true but there are some that still disagree with the premise. but for the sake of argument I will agree that it is not. The fact that it is psychologically addiction cannot be denied and in spite of what you and others believe there ARE risks to it and driving under the influence is just as bad as driving under the influence of alcohol, since reactions times are slowed after smoking. most of the affects are short term but when you blow your mind short term often enough and it CAN (not necessarily will) become long term impairment. </p><p></p><p>3) your claim that MJ does not have withdrawal symptoms is also bullshit. </p><p> </p><p><strong><em>"Contrary to what many pot smokers may tell you, marijuana is addictive, at least psychologically. Even among occasional users, one in 12 can feel withdrawal symptoms if they can't get high when they want to. Among heavy pot smokers, the rates of dependence are higher." here's a link for you. <a href="http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects" target="_blank">Marijuana - Marijuana Use and Effects of Marijuana</a> </em></strong></p><p></p><p>4) then we have your absolutely laughable statement: </p><p></p><p></p><p>The general feeling is that it is not a gateway drug but again, there are arguments on both sides of the fence. and where you got your "story behind this" doesn't know what they are talking about because what you quote is certainly not the story behind this. It is called a "gateway" drug because the THEORY is that people move on to the other drugs in search of a "better" or "long lasting" high. Notice I said THEORY and not that it was a proven fact. The jury is still out and you can find scientists on both sides of the argument. But it is certainly not considered a gateway drug because the drug dealer offered up a "better time". he is a player, but nothing more. My Father worked in drug crimes for over 20 years as part of his job. He has said that every one he had arrested for hard drugs started with marijuana and / or alcohol. does that mean 100% do? no but it is an pretty good indicator. </p><p></p><p>5) does Marijuana kill brain cells: again your flat denial is as bad as those that insist it does. short term it certainly has some affect on the brain. how long that lasts with repeated use is very much still in debate: </p><p></p><p>"<strong><em>The active ingredient in marijuana is delta-9-tetrohydrocannabinol, commonly referred to as THC. THC binds to and activates specific receptors in the brain, known as cannabinoid receptors (<a href="http://www.ctprevention.org/saac/Saac_Files/fs_marijuana_brain.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.ctprevention.org/saac/Saac_Files/fs_marijuana_brain.pdf</a>). When these receptors are activated, THC interferes with the normal functioning of various areas of the brain, including the cerebellum, part of the brain responsible for balance, posture, and coordination of movement, and the hippocampus, which is involved with memory formation. As a result, individuals under the influence of marijuana may experience impairment in motor control and compromised short-term memory. In the intoxicated state, memory is often selectively impaired in a dose-dependent fashion similar to alcohol (Deahl 1991). Marijuana also affects receptors in the cerebral cortex that are responsible for sensory perception, which can cause users to experience altered sensory experiences in areas such as touch, sight, hearing, taste, and smell. It can cause distorted perception, impaired coordination, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, and problems with learning and short-term memory (<a href="http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html" target="_blank">Marijuana | InfoFacts | National Institute on Drug Abuse</a>). </em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p> <strong><em>The immediate effects of marijuana intoxication on an individual are commonly accepted and are generally undisputed. However, the long-term effects have received a great deal of debate, as scientific research has yielded contradictory results."</em></strong></p><p><strong><em></em></strong></p><p><strong><em>Source: </em></strong></p><p><strong><em><a href="http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2009/MarijuanaBrain.htm" target="_blank">Does Marijuana Damage Brain Cells?</a></em></strong></p><p>bottom line: I am not totally against its legalization. I am for legalizing prostitution. regulate it and tax it. if they legalize MJ I am all for taxing the shit out of it and it's users and severe penalties for driving under the influence.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDJ, post: 11573742, member: 5905"] ok so first let's take a look at some of your earlier crap: All Marijuana IS cannabis. but not all Cannabis is Marjuana. MJ is a variety of the Cannabis sativa plant, just like hemp is. so your claim that Cannabis is "just a plant" and not marijuana is bullshit. here is a source for you [url=http://www.iamshaman.com/hemp/hemp.htm]The Difference Between Hemp and Cannabis and Marijuana[/url] Hemp and MJ both are illegal to grow in the U.S. but you can own products made out of hemp but not MJ. now where is the link that it is the same as "Mexican tobacco"? and where is the link that shows it got its name from a racial slur of mexicans? 2) MJ is not physically addictive, this is probably true but there are some that still disagree with the premise. but for the sake of argument I will agree that it is not. The fact that it is psychologically addiction cannot be denied and in spite of what you and others believe there ARE risks to it and driving under the influence is just as bad as driving under the influence of alcohol, since reactions times are slowed after smoking. most of the affects are short term but when you blow your mind short term often enough and it CAN (not necessarily will) become long term impairment. 3) your claim that MJ does not have withdrawal symptoms is also bullshit. [B][I]"Contrary to what many pot smokers may tell you, marijuana is addictive, at least psychologically. Even among occasional users, one in 12 can feel withdrawal symptoms if they can't get high when they want to. Among heavy pot smokers, the rates of dependence are higher." here's a link for you. [url=http://www.webmd.com/mental-health/marijuana-use-and-its-effects]Marijuana - Marijuana Use and Effects of Marijuana[/url] [/I][/B] 4) then we have your absolutely laughable statement: The general feeling is that it is not a gateway drug but again, there are arguments on both sides of the fence. and where you got your "story behind this" doesn't know what they are talking about because what you quote is certainly not the story behind this. It is called a "gateway" drug because the THEORY is that people move on to the other drugs in search of a "better" or "long lasting" high. Notice I said THEORY and not that it was a proven fact. The jury is still out and you can find scientists on both sides of the argument. But it is certainly not considered a gateway drug because the drug dealer offered up a "better time". he is a player, but nothing more. My Father worked in drug crimes for over 20 years as part of his job. He has said that every one he had arrested for hard drugs started with marijuana and / or alcohol. does that mean 100% do? no but it is an pretty good indicator. 5) does Marijuana kill brain cells: again your flat denial is as bad as those that insist it does. short term it certainly has some affect on the brain. how long that lasts with repeated use is very much still in debate: "[B][I]The active ingredient in marijuana is delta-9-tetrohydrocannabinol, commonly referred to as THC. THC binds to and activates specific receptors in the brain, known as cannabinoid receptors ([url]http://www.ctprevention.org/saac/Saac_Files/fs_marijuana_brain.pdf[/url]). When these receptors are activated, THC interferes with the normal functioning of various areas of the brain, including the cerebellum, part of the brain responsible for balance, posture, and coordination of movement, and the hippocampus, which is involved with memory formation. As a result, individuals under the influence of marijuana may experience impairment in motor control and compromised short-term memory. In the intoxicated state, memory is often selectively impaired in a dose-dependent fashion similar to alcohol (Deahl 1991). Marijuana also affects receptors in the cerebral cortex that are responsible for sensory perception, which can cause users to experience altered sensory experiences in areas such as touch, sight, hearing, taste, and smell. It can cause distorted perception, impaired coordination, difficulty in thinking and problem solving, and problems with learning and short-term memory ([url=http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html]Marijuana | InfoFacts | National Institute on Drug Abuse[/url]). The immediate effects of marijuana intoxication on an individual are commonly accepted and are generally undisputed. However, the long-term effects have received a great deal of debate, as scientific research has yielded contradictory results." Source: [url=http://healthpsych.psy.vanderbilt.edu/2009/MarijuanaBrain.htm]Does Marijuana Damage Brain Cells?[/url][/I][/B] bottom line: I am not totally against its legalization. I am for legalizing prostitution. regulate it and tax it. if they legalize MJ I am all for taxing the shit out of it and it's users and severe penalties for driving under the influence. [/QUOTE]
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