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<blockquote data-quote="HomeboyNorm" data-source="post: 6021738" data-attributes="member: 19007"><p>I do agree with you on your statement about which is more efficient. Turbo is free power, when a SC is parastic. However, it is almost never the case that a turbo motor would last just as long if not longer, because it is too easy to just crank up the boost on a turbo set up and blow your engine up just like that. A lot of people get greedy when they lose races, then they just turn it up thinking it will give them the edge. I think the same boost from either set up should be equally reliable with today's technology or else new car manufacturers wouldn't use the PD SCs that can last just as well.</p><p></p><p>The arguement is not the PD is slow, but how some of the Turbo owners say it is slower than Turbo. Not always true. BLK_03 posted a video that isn't really a fair race. Why not try from digs, or a 3.4L Whipple? He has a TT which is almost the ultimate in Turbo set up verus an older PD SC. I think a PD can be as fast for somewhat cheaper seeing how Turbo kits are near twice the price of the biggest PD SC in the 3.4 Whipple. There are a couple of 3.4 Whipples that already ran 9's on stock block at 140+ MPH and that's the shake down runs. I read that one of them blew the stock engine though because of excessive boost. Without going Outlaw, Pro, etc. with their insane turbo set ups, a SC can be just as fast if not faster off the line or a curve. The poster wants to do 1/4 and road action, and not highway roll ons at high speeds unless I am not following it right. A 3.4 Whipple will net you enough power to be competitive in that kind of racing as they can do 700RWHP for sure and thats with all the TQ very early in the band and flat across to the crossing point.</p><p></p><p>However, you did make a very good point that I did not think of, about how the money could be recouped when all the old supercharger parts are sold which is indeed a very good point in itself. I was pulling for the 3.4 Whipple because the poster seemed somewhat concerned about the cost and what type of racing he wants to do. He can have his engine built and the Whipple for $10k if he can do his labor and still have some left over for the supporting modifications. Now, if he still have the original supercharger parts he can sell, then it might be a different story because it would of off-set the Turbo kit initial cost. If he can afford a few more thousand dollars, then yeah he should go with a Turbo for its unlimited potential. He might have more kinks with the Turbo kit to work out in the end since the car came from factory with a PD SC and not turbo.</p><p></p><p>I said I was not knocking on any of you guys with the Turbos, and I've said it several times. If cost is a concern, stay with a PD SC, and if it is not then go Turbo is my opinion. Not to mention how fun the PD SC will be from light to light if it can catch traction, and off the curves while road racing. The low end grunt is fun. A Whipple will make all of its Torque by like 2,000RPM when a Turbo will have to rev higher for the same torque. That's my opinion, and opinions are not right or wrong.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="HomeboyNorm, post: 6021738, member: 19007"] I do agree with you on your statement about which is more efficient. Turbo is free power, when a SC is parastic. However, it is almost never the case that a turbo motor would last just as long if not longer, because it is too easy to just crank up the boost on a turbo set up and blow your engine up just like that. A lot of people get greedy when they lose races, then they just turn it up thinking it will give them the edge. I think the same boost from either set up should be equally reliable with today's technology or else new car manufacturers wouldn't use the PD SCs that can last just as well. The arguement is not the PD is slow, but how some of the Turbo owners say it is slower than Turbo. Not always true. BLK_03 posted a video that isn't really a fair race. Why not try from digs, or a 3.4L Whipple? He has a TT which is almost the ultimate in Turbo set up verus an older PD SC. I think a PD can be as fast for somewhat cheaper seeing how Turbo kits are near twice the price of the biggest PD SC in the 3.4 Whipple. There are a couple of 3.4 Whipples that already ran 9's on stock block at 140+ MPH and that's the shake down runs. I read that one of them blew the stock engine though because of excessive boost. Without going Outlaw, Pro, etc. with their insane turbo set ups, a SC can be just as fast if not faster off the line or a curve. The poster wants to do 1/4 and road action, and not highway roll ons at high speeds unless I am not following it right. A 3.4 Whipple will net you enough power to be competitive in that kind of racing as they can do 700RWHP for sure and thats with all the TQ very early in the band and flat across to the crossing point. However, you did make a very good point that I did not think of, about how the money could be recouped when all the old supercharger parts are sold which is indeed a very good point in itself. I was pulling for the 3.4 Whipple because the poster seemed somewhat concerned about the cost and what type of racing he wants to do. He can have his engine built and the Whipple for $10k if he can do his labor and still have some left over for the supporting modifications. Now, if he still have the original supercharger parts he can sell, then it might be a different story because it would of off-set the Turbo kit initial cost. If he can afford a few more thousand dollars, then yeah he should go with a Turbo for its unlimited potential. He might have more kinks with the Turbo kit to work out in the end since the car came from factory with a PD SC and not turbo. I said I was not knocking on any of you guys with the Turbos, and I've said it several times. If cost is a concern, stay with a PD SC, and if it is not then go Turbo is my opinion. Not to mention how fun the PD SC will be from light to light if it can catch traction, and off the curves while road racing. The low end grunt is fun. A Whipple will make all of its Torque by like 2,000RPM when a Turbo will have to rev higher for the same torque. That's my opinion, and opinions are not right or wrong. [/QUOTE]
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