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Unhappy with Carbotech 1521 Bobcat street pads.
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<blockquote data-quote="TheFleshRocket" data-source="post: 10985715" data-attributes="member: 48535"><p>I actually HATE ceramic pads in general. Stopping performance, compared to more aggressive pad compounds, is not the greatest. I've tried four different pad compounds on my wife's 300C--stock, EBC Redstuff, Performance Friction, and now the Bobcat 1521s. It's a big car, around 4300 lbs, but it has big brakes--way bigger than my Cobra or my Buick wagon. The sad thing is that braking performance from the 300 feels very comparable to the Buick wagon and lags behind the Cobra noticeably. I don't expect the Buick to be able to match the Cobra, due to its extra 700 lbs or so, but it ought to be able to easily outstop the small-braked, rear-drum Buick.</p><p></p><p>But the worst thing about ceramic pads is that they leave deposits on the rotors which result in pedal pulsation. The 300 was really bad about that, so I made sure to talk to my wife about releasing pressure on the brake pedal after coming to a stop to help cut down on the pad material transfer to the rotors. She said that she made a conscious effort to do so, but still every couple thousand miles, I'd have to do a half dozen hard braking maneuvers to clean off the rotors. I ended up cracking both front rotors on that car because I decided to clean the rotors during the winter (still above freezing tho) without warming up the brakes enough first. My Buick wagon was the same way, and that was with me behind the wheel so I know just how easy I was being on the brakes to avoid the deposits. </p><p></p><p>The Bobcat 1521s are, I think, at least partially ceramic and so far they haven't left any deposits on the 300 or Cobra rotors, so they're at least good about that. And I switched the wagon to some cheapy semi-metallic pads temporarily (while I'm trying to figure out what I really want to use on it) and those haven't left any deposits either, despite me abusing the brakes however I want to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TheFleshRocket, post: 10985715, member: 48535"] I actually HATE ceramic pads in general. Stopping performance, compared to more aggressive pad compounds, is not the greatest. I've tried four different pad compounds on my wife's 300C--stock, EBC Redstuff, Performance Friction, and now the Bobcat 1521s. It's a big car, around 4300 lbs, but it has big brakes--way bigger than my Cobra or my Buick wagon. The sad thing is that braking performance from the 300 feels very comparable to the Buick wagon and lags behind the Cobra noticeably. I don't expect the Buick to be able to match the Cobra, due to its extra 700 lbs or so, but it ought to be able to easily outstop the small-braked, rear-drum Buick. But the worst thing about ceramic pads is that they leave deposits on the rotors which result in pedal pulsation. The 300 was really bad about that, so I made sure to talk to my wife about releasing pressure on the brake pedal after coming to a stop to help cut down on the pad material transfer to the rotors. She said that she made a conscious effort to do so, but still every couple thousand miles, I'd have to do a half dozen hard braking maneuvers to clean off the rotors. I ended up cracking both front rotors on that car because I decided to clean the rotors during the winter (still above freezing tho) without warming up the brakes enough first. My Buick wagon was the same way, and that was with me behind the wheel so I know just how easy I was being on the brakes to avoid the deposits. The Bobcat 1521s are, I think, at least partially ceramic and so far they haven't left any deposits on the 300 or Cobra rotors, so they're at least good about that. And I switched the wagon to some cheapy semi-metallic pads temporarily (while I'm trying to figure out what I really want to use on it) and those haven't left any deposits either, despite me abusing the brakes however I want to. [/QUOTE]
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