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What Will The 2016 Raptor Have?
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<blockquote data-quote="dragonknight" data-source="post: 14347559" data-attributes="member: 164991"><p>the Baja EB engine you saw was a RandD vehicle not for specific mass production. the raptor is a niche line that does well but that's with any ford niche line the vehicle in its class sells beyond fords expectation's. </p><p>to the weight - do you realize 7000 pounds isn't a whole lot of weight? its a lot of weight to a car like a mustang or a Camaro but not a truck. differences there.</p><p>if there's was government regulations on niche model lines then the raptor would not exist or it would not come back although ( not to try and make rumors) I've been hearing ALOT that the raptor wont be back instead the bronco is coming back out. I don't know if that is true or not. </p><p>the 6.2l needs an aluminum block the 6.2l engine is also fords cheapest engine to mass produce adding aluminum to the block will take aprox. 40 pounds off the front nose of any vehicle it sit's in. I can see a 3.5l eco-boost in the raptor before I can see a 5.0l in it. its all about torque when it comes to 35 inch tires heavy truck weight and steep gears and the 5.0 just does not match that bill. yes a 5.0l can make the same amount of torque as the 6.2l currently does but by its very nature it has to rev higher to match that number. you're looking at 5300RPM easily for the 5.0 to hit 443 the smaller the engine the higher it has to rev to match the same number as an engine that has a considerable amount of displacement on it that's a fact and you can not get the 5.0 to make the same kind of power at the same RPM's with out the aid of forced induction but that is not cost effective or feasible for an off-road truck with a V8 gasoline engine in it. and diesel off road trucks are a different breed of niche line vehicles.</p><p>high end vehicles or "niche" vehicles are not taxed as heavily for that simple reason the viper the vette the raptor are not taxed like a mustang or focus or a F150 even the superduty line up does not get taxed like the half ton trucks do.</p><p>this was stock vs stock comparisons nothing was modded. </p><p>my XLT F250 comes stock with a locking 373 gearing and a 6spd automatic transmission, I have the ability to tow 13k and 16800 fifth wheel towing, my car trailer is use to haul my crown vic around to drag strips my boat is very heavy trailers are nothing for a vehicle to tow when empty its the weight on the axles is what makes it difficult for a vehicle to tow. </p><p>my brothers F150 has the same gearing and it has the locking rear differential as well different transmission though the boat when towed by his truck which he wont do anymore likes to rev higher and has poor acceleration fuel economy on his 5.0 drops well below 10MPGs.</p><p>fuel economy differs at RPM to RPM.</p><p> at cruising speeds both trucks get similar MPGs because neither vehicle is under load while accelerating when acceraleting that's when fuel economy is changed drastically and with the 5.0 being rev happy it just wants to rev higher because it has to that's why the fuel economy is worse in his truck. his truck under load feels like it has no balls to get out of its own way.</p><p> my F250 has not a single problem accelerating with a load unlike his truck. my truck and his isn't that much of a difference my body weighs about the same as his same tires/wheels suspension is not much off and the frames aren't much either my engine and trans does weigh more though but weights aren't off much.</p><p></p><p></p><p>700 pounds not 7k lmao also high end niche vehicles don't get taxed much because the federal government knows they cant make much revenue off of lets say a GT500 or a raptor or a vette. because these are not fleet vehicles nor are they sold in such high numbers "yearly" like an F!50 or a focus.. there's no money for taxing something at 6k units sold but there's more money to tax on vehicle lines that sell 30k</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="dragonknight, post: 14347559, member: 164991"] the Baja EB engine you saw was a RandD vehicle not for specific mass production. the raptor is a niche line that does well but that's with any ford niche line the vehicle in its class sells beyond fords expectation's. to the weight - do you realize 7000 pounds isn't a whole lot of weight? its a lot of weight to a car like a mustang or a Camaro but not a truck. differences there. if there's was government regulations on niche model lines then the raptor would not exist or it would not come back although ( not to try and make rumors) I've been hearing ALOT that the raptor wont be back instead the bronco is coming back out. I don't know if that is true or not. the 6.2l needs an aluminum block the 6.2l engine is also fords cheapest engine to mass produce adding aluminum to the block will take aprox. 40 pounds off the front nose of any vehicle it sit's in. I can see a 3.5l eco-boost in the raptor before I can see a 5.0l in it. its all about torque when it comes to 35 inch tires heavy truck weight and steep gears and the 5.0 just does not match that bill. yes a 5.0l can make the same amount of torque as the 6.2l currently does but by its very nature it has to rev higher to match that number. you're looking at 5300RPM easily for the 5.0 to hit 443 the smaller the engine the higher it has to rev to match the same number as an engine that has a considerable amount of displacement on it that's a fact and you can not get the 5.0 to make the same kind of power at the same RPM's with out the aid of forced induction but that is not cost effective or feasible for an off-road truck with a V8 gasoline engine in it. and diesel off road trucks are a different breed of niche line vehicles. high end vehicles or "niche" vehicles are not taxed as heavily for that simple reason the viper the vette the raptor are not taxed like a mustang or focus or a F150 even the superduty line up does not get taxed like the half ton trucks do. this was stock vs stock comparisons nothing was modded. my XLT F250 comes stock with a locking 373 gearing and a 6spd automatic transmission, I have the ability to tow 13k and 16800 fifth wheel towing, my car trailer is use to haul my crown vic around to drag strips my boat is very heavy trailers are nothing for a vehicle to tow when empty its the weight on the axles is what makes it difficult for a vehicle to tow. my brothers F150 has the same gearing and it has the locking rear differential as well different transmission though the boat when towed by his truck which he wont do anymore likes to rev higher and has poor acceleration fuel economy on his 5.0 drops well below 10MPGs. fuel economy differs at RPM to RPM. at cruising speeds both trucks get similar MPGs because neither vehicle is under load while accelerating when acceraleting that's when fuel economy is changed drastically and with the 5.0 being rev happy it just wants to rev higher because it has to that's why the fuel economy is worse in his truck. his truck under load feels like it has no balls to get out of its own way. my F250 has not a single problem accelerating with a load unlike his truck. my truck and his isn't that much of a difference my body weighs about the same as his same tires/wheels suspension is not much off and the frames aren't much either my engine and trans does weigh more though but weights aren't off much. 700 pounds not 7k lmao also high end niche vehicles don't get taxed much because the federal government knows they cant make much revenue off of lets say a GT500 or a raptor or a vette. because these are not fleet vehicles nor are they sold in such high numbers "yearly" like an F!50 or a focus.. there's no money for taxing something at 6k units sold but there's more money to tax on vehicle lines that sell 30k [/QUOTE]
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