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Whats next for more N/A power?
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<blockquote data-quote="Highway Star" data-source="post: 12417348" data-attributes="member: 138035"><p>Black n decker. I agree with you to a point, but at some point costs has to come into play here. I suppose it is possible theoretically to achieve this broad flat torque curve characteristic of the stock engines albeit with more horsepower. But, What you are talking about requires a fair degree of trial and error experimentation. On the one hand you are talking about increasing compression, which means essentially a taller piston head and also maintaining variable cam timing. This Also means running on E85 or race gas. In a perfect world with race gas on every corner, unlimited funds, and a machine shop at your disposal grinding cams valves and piston heads to avoid clearance issues it is doable. But there is nothing on the market like that now. Also you know it is a total apples and oranges comparison. A Japanese four banger turning out 220 plus Hp compared to an American V-8 turning out 450-520. I do not think it is a failure of the aftermarket. There is no more comprehensive aftermarket for any car. The problem with what you are talking about is that to reproduce this torque cure and to achieve 500+ naturally aspirated rwhp will take a lot more than cams on these engines. One must also keep in mind relative advantage here. Your mustang whatever your build, will produce more torque and horsepower off idle than that Japanese car will produce at 8000 rpm. I assume that is why you put the rice away and started eating American Beef Steak! <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /> Anyways good luck with your build and I look forward to the day when someone has the time and money to do what you are talking about. Meanwhile, I really wish you could drive my car because I do not think you would mind the torque curve at all.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Highway Star, post: 12417348, member: 138035"] Black n decker. I agree with you to a point, but at some point costs has to come into play here. I suppose it is possible theoretically to achieve this broad flat torque curve characteristic of the stock engines albeit with more horsepower. But, What you are talking about requires a fair degree of trial and error experimentation. On the one hand you are talking about increasing compression, which means essentially a taller piston head and also maintaining variable cam timing. This Also means running on E85 or race gas. In a perfect world with race gas on every corner, unlimited funds, and a machine shop at your disposal grinding cams valves and piston heads to avoid clearance issues it is doable. But there is nothing on the market like that now. Also you know it is a total apples and oranges comparison. A Japanese four banger turning out 220 plus Hp compared to an American V-8 turning out 450-520. I do not think it is a failure of the aftermarket. There is no more comprehensive aftermarket for any car. The problem with what you are talking about is that to reproduce this torque cure and to achieve 500+ naturally aspirated rwhp will take a lot more than cams on these engines. One must also keep in mind relative advantage here. Your mustang whatever your build, will produce more torque and horsepower off idle than that Japanese car will produce at 8000 rpm. I assume that is why you put the rice away and started eating American Beef Steak! :) Anyways good luck with your build and I look forward to the day when someone has the time and money to do what you are talking about. Meanwhile, I really wish you could drive my car because I do not think you would mind the torque curve at all. [/QUOTE]
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