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Old 06-10-2005, 05:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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my early '01 has a teksid block? (see pics)

after reading this thread, clicky out of curiosity I took a look at my car, and I was surprised to see that I could actually see teksid block features on the intake valley of my early '01 cobra (#50 off the line)

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here is it zoomed

you can clearly see the square grids. Just like the picture of the Teksid block in this picture:


where as WAP blocks have a diamond shaped grids like this:



can you modular gurus (quadcammer?) confirm based on these pics? or am I smoking crack???
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It's possible a few left over Teksids were used in the early run '01s.
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I have my block sitting on my coffee table as I'm getting it ready to send off to my engine builder. It has the same square grids. Does this mean that it's definately a teksid block?
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I have my block sitting on my coffee table as I'm getting it ready to send off to my engine builder. It has the same square grids. Does this mean that it's definately a teksid block?

What year car did your block come from?
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Old 06-10-2005, 09:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
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It's possible a few left over Teksids were used on the first run '01s.
It's also possible that more than "a few" Teksids were used in the '01's. I have that same block, and my car is #1925 of 3384 convertibles. The car's build date was 30 MAY 01, and my engine's build date was 17 APR 01, putting it past the middle of the '01 production run.

I realize that Sean Hyland's book states that the WAP block was used for the '01 engines, but the fact is that I've asked other early adopters of the '99/'01 KB kit if any of the '01 owners had a WAP block. Nobody responded affirmatively, so maybe Sean Hyland isn't the infallible Mustang oracle that we sometimes fancy him to be.

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What year car did your block come from?

1999 Cobra.

It looks identical to the teksid block with the square grids on it.
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I read somewhere that there were about 150 Teskid blocks used in the early 99's. It may have been in the SVT Recognition Guide. I will try to find it tonight. Mine is a 97, but was built in Oct 96 and has the old ink signatures on the valve cover like the 96's did, so anything is possible. If you do have a Teskid block, be glad. They are supposed to be able to handle up to 800+ blown HP. If you rebuild the top half of these engines, you can make a monster and eat those twin turbo Supras for lunch!
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1999 Cobra.

It looks identical to the teksid block with the square grids on it.
All 99s had Teksids.
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It's also possible that more than "a few" Teksids were used in the '01's. I have that same block, and my car is #1925 of 3384 convertibles. The car's build date was 30 MAY 01, and my engine's build date was 17 APR 01, putting it past the middle of the '01 production run.

I realize that Sean Hyland's book states that the WAP block was used for the '01 engines, but the fact is that I've asked other early adopters of the '99/'01 KB kit if any of the '01 owners had a WAP block. Nobody responded affirmatively, so maybe Sean Hyland isn't the infallible Mustang oracle that we sometimes fancy him to be.

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I don't quote Sean Hyland on anything. His parts/prices/motors absolutely suck as do his results.
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I read somewhere that there were about 150 Teskid blocks used in the early 99's. It may have been in the SVT Recognition Guide. I will try to find it tonight. Mine is a 97, but was built in Oct 96 and has the old ink signatures on the valve cover like the 96's did, so anything is possible. If you do have a Teskid block, be glad. They are supposed to be able to handle up to 800+ blown HP. If you rebuild the top half of these engines, you can make a monster and eat those twin turbo Supras for lunch!
You mean bottom end. Tim Palmer ran a stock B top end to 8s @ 162 @ 3300lbs+. John Mihovetz has successfully used a teksid @ .020" over to 2000HP @ 40psi.
I would still recommend an iron block for a daily driver/weekend warrior. The extra block rigidty comes in handy on forced induction 4.6s.
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I don't quote Sean Hyland on anything. His parts/prices/motors absolutely suck as do his results.
I don't recall having said that you had. I mentioned the book as a preemptive measure.

Knowing the argumentative vein that runs through this forum, I had no doubt that SOMEONE eventually would.

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What difference does it make??? just curious.
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What difference does it make??? just curious.
teksid is supposed to be stronger.
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What difference does it make??? just curious.

The casting process is different, making the WAP less dense than the Teksid and a few lbs lighter. N/A you'll be fine with either.
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I don't recall having said that you had. I mentioned the book as a preemptive measure.

Knowing the argumentative vein that runs through this forum, I had no doubt that SOMEONE eventually would.

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My late 01 has the Teksid block. I think more were used than the literature suggests.

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yup, thats a teksid.
lucky bastage.
the wap block is thinner and has the extra ribbing. mine has been holding up fine, but id prefer a teksid, no doubt.
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My car was built at about the same time as your car i'm going to check it out and see.


Edit nevermind mine is a WAP block.
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I am not sure when mine was built. I am the 2nd owner and have not recieved my build info from SVT yet. I just went out to mine and it has a teksid block. When I have more info on my ride, I will let you know. Maybe there is a way to find out when they quit putting the teksid blocks in the '01's?
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I am not sure when mine was built. I am the 2nd owner and have not recieved my build info from SVT yet. I just went out to mine and it has a teksid block. When I have more info on my ride, I will let you know. Maybe there is a way to find out when they quit putting the teksid blocks in the '01's?
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My Cobra with a build date of April 11, 2001 has a Teksid block as well.
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man it sure seems like there are lots of '01s with Teksid blocks.
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I wonder if they are realy a WAP block just with a different pattern. There seems to be no rime or reason as to what cars got them or didn't.
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I wonder if they are realy a WAP block just with a different pattern. There seems to be no rime or reason as to what cars got them or didn't.
doubt it, you can easily see the beefier ribs in the teksid blocks.

edit: not ribs.. more like bulges between ribs

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True but there still seems to be no rime or reason as to what cars got them or didn't. But then again I always wondered what happened to all of the spare 99 engines after the plans for the 00 got scraped due to problems. Unless those got sent to Australia like what happened in 02 because there was a 00 Australian Cobra.
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