A guy one of the other forums lost #8 with an FRPP tune as well. Ford replaced motor without question and the dealer re-loaded the tune as well.
link or it didn't happen.
A guy one of the other forums lost #8 with an FRPP tune as well. Ford replaced motor without question and the dealer re-loaded the tune as well.
I'll try to dig it up tomorrow at work.
I can help, I've been following this topic on some forums. Post number 172 starts the FRPP tune failure discussion. Post 178 he says Ford reinstalled the tune on the new engine.
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allfordmustang is one of the worst sites for lies and BS. More to this story.
Thanks. I've been following it too in my search for stock untuned blown #8 (still yet to be found). This is closest yet so I'll read looking for discrepancies.
I haven't seen a post first hand by someone with a stock setup losing #8. Of course that doesn't mean there aren't, but it is significant that none have been posted.
Ya, try 3.75 quarts in 4,100 miles
The oil burning thing is interesting. With all my troubles with engine ticking, I never lost one drop of oil between 5000 oil changes. I mean it didn't move a hair on the dipstick.
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Originally Posted by Red Turtle View Post
I don't believe that is correct. If Ford detected a tune that altered the parameters from factory..... timing, fuel, spark, increased redline..... and the engine came in with a failure....they can void any warranty on the engine for that vin. Of course the remaining parts not affected by this are still under warranty.
Bottom line is if a tune was in the car and it went BOOM, you don't have a chance at a warranty claim.
black99lightnin
Agreed, the Magnuson Moss act won't help where the factory tuning parameters have been changed thus resulting in engine damage.
the law is nice and all but court can get nearly as expensive as a new engine and a lot more time consuming. They can deny all they want and it would be up to you to force their hand.
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Most of the top tuners in the country, offer mail-order tunes. It's because it's not about whether the tune is mail-order or not, it's about experience with the platform. Any company that is sending out SCT value files, shouldn't be mail-order tuning cars. If they dyno-tuned cars, they'd see that those value files can't be sent out.
2 of the tuners you mentioned had motor failures confirmed. We had 2 motor failures confirmed and we don't use global spark, don't use SCT value files, do command a safe air fuel ratio, do lab test and dyno/street/track test all of our MAF calibrations to ensure accuracy, do use IDS and other OE-type datalogging and data acquisition tools, do error on the side of the safe, do use stock knock sensor sensitivity, are the largest SCT dealer in the world (thousands of 2011's), are SCT certified, and do own/operate a dyno and 9 company Mustangs and many employee Mustangs.
It's still too young in the process of getting this cylinder 8 issue handled to start pointing fingers anywhere. I just thought I'd clear up some of the "toons are doing it" nonsense.
I agree with this Chris.
BTW people.
I know Chris Rose is a great tuner and I'm sure those of you that know his work know this too.
Waiver of standards
The performance of the duties under subsection (a) of this
section shall not be required of the warrantor if he can show that
the defect, malfunction, or failure of any warranted consumer
product to conform with a written warranty, was caused by damage
(not resulting from defect or malfunction) while in the possession
of the consumer, or unreasonable use (including failure to provide
reasonable and necessary maintenance).