Need help ASAP. Engine related.
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Put your foot on the throttle slightly to let a little air in to see if it starts up.
If that was my car, it would have been towed almost instantly.
If that was my car, it would have been towed almost instantly.
cant listen to the vid, but does it sound like its cranking normally? if it is cranking normally its probably not the batt.
i used to work for aaa though and its pretty common for the batt to have around 12v, radio and other things work,but not enough cold cranking amps, to start the car. some times the car would crank, but not fast enough..
but, do you not have your gauges wired to a switched source so that they do not drain power when the ignition is off? if thats the case, i am not saying that it drained your batt because of that, but its a bad idea and will shorten your batt life and could drain your batt.
it sounds to me like you might have lost your h/e fluid a while back and this is an unrelated problem. if i remember correctly, i have hear of people driving around for a while with no h/e fluid and no damage to motor. one person in particular i remember reading about, bought the car that way, a few weeks later, realized there was no coolant, filled it up, then right away hydrolocked the motor because the intercooler had a leak...
i used to work for aaa though and its pretty common for the batt to have around 12v, radio and other things work,but not enough cold cranking amps, to start the car. some times the car would crank, but not fast enough..
but, do you not have your gauges wired to a switched source so that they do not drain power when the ignition is off? if thats the case, i am not saying that it drained your batt because of that, but its a bad idea and will shorten your batt life and could drain your batt.
it sounds to me like you might have lost your h/e fluid a while back and this is an unrelated problem. if i remember correctly, i have hear of people driving around for a while with no h/e fluid and no damage to motor. one person in particular i remember reading about, bought the car that way, a few weeks later, realized there was no coolant, filled it up, then right away hydrolocked the motor because the intercooler had a leak...
At the car now, taking a break since its raining.
Blower turns fine. No fuel smell in oil or engine coolant.
Pulled the 4 spark plugs on driver side. The 2 closest to front of the car have a weird odor. Can't say 100% that it's fuel I'm smelling (imo it doesnt smell like fuel 100%) but I'm guessing that's what it is??
Plugs are SLIGHTLY wet. I took pics but can't upload them until I get on a computer.
Blower turns fine. No fuel smell in oil or engine coolant.
Pulled the 4 spark plugs on driver side. The 2 closest to front of the car have a weird odor. Can't say 100% that it's fuel I'm smelling (imo it doesnt smell like fuel 100%) but I'm guessing that's what it is??
Plugs are SLIGHTLY wet. I took pics but can't upload them until I get on a computer.
did you try starting the car when you first got back to it today (before messing with anything)?? if so...what happened? same thing as the vid? just crank, but no start?
the plugs are slightly wet? hmmm... i would imagine they were REALLY wet before sitting overnight to have time to dry. maybe somehow the car was/got flooded. obviously this would not explain the screech noise...but it would explain the car not starting, and just cranking.
try to get the plugs dry real quick, or go pick up a new set....THEN try starting it, with dry or new plugs. that would prob be MY first step, personally, after finding out the plugs are wet.
edit: im sure the wet on the plugs is fuel. not real sure what else it could be.
the plugs are slightly wet? hmmm... i would imagine they were REALLY wet before sitting overnight to have time to dry. maybe somehow the car was/got flooded. obviously this would not explain the screech noise...but it would explain the car not starting, and just cranking.
try to get the plugs dry real quick, or go pick up a new set....THEN try starting it, with dry or new plugs. that would prob be MY first step, personally, after finding out the plugs are wet.
edit: im sure the wet on the plugs is fuel. not real sure what else it could be.
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To answer question above, car still doesn't start.
Almost kicked over but didn't.
Pulling the other 4 plugs in a minute.
Almost kicked over but didn't.
Pulling the other 4 plugs in a minute.
If those plugs are wet, likely you flodded the engine with all the cranking you've been trying to do. Crank the car for 10-20 seconds while holding the gas pedal WOT - this may sound dangerous but during cranking if the car sees WOT the PCM will cut the fuel pump, allowing you to crank and combust what fuel is left in the cylinder or shoot it out the exhaust valve. If it backfires during this process, that's normal, it will sound like a gunshot going off (sometimes will blow the air filter off if you have a CAI).
Honestly dude, I think you overheated the motor.
Honestly dude, I think you overheated the motor.
Keep us updated, If you want to see if your MAF is bad, Unplug it and see if it idles. I believe its vice versa for the IAC. But i'm not 100% Sure. Another consideration is you may have a very bad vacuum leak.
That MAY be the sound you were hearing. But do the process posted above. You may have just flooded it.
That MAY be the sound you were hearing. But do the process posted above. You may have just flooded it.
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Rain break again...
There was a good amount of oil in the throttle body which some of course leaked down the inlet tube (not sure of the correct name but it's the black plastic tubing connection the air filter and throttle body). When I pulled on the throttle cable to open it up oil dripped out. Have a video but like the pics can't post until I get home.
Still haven't gotten to the passenger side plugs yet because of the rain.
Tried starting it while having my foot on the gas pedal. Did that for 15 seconds or so but didn't start up. Just made the same sound the entire time. The sound being the noise it makes right as you turn the key and before it turns over.
No backfire or anything.
Took a video of that as well which I'll post when I can. Running out of daylight and it looks like the rain isn't going to stop anytime soon.
There was a good amount of oil in the throttle body which some of course leaked down the inlet tube (not sure of the correct name but it's the black plastic tubing connection the air filter and throttle body). When I pulled on the throttle cable to open it up oil dripped out. Have a video but like the pics can't post until I get home.
Still haven't gotten to the passenger side plugs yet because of the rain.
Tried starting it while having my foot on the gas pedal. Did that for 15 seconds or so but didn't start up. Just made the same sound the entire time. The sound being the noise it makes right as you turn the key and before it turns over.
No backfire or anything.
Took a video of that as well which I'll post when I can. Running out of daylight and it looks like the rain isn't going to stop anytime soon.
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Forgot to add, I checked the battery when I first got to the car.
Was showing 12.4 volts.
Was showing 12.4 volts.
BOOM,,,,just kidding...
good one....problems i had that just appeared out of no where...fuel shut off switch in trunk,,,air inlet tube disconnected from throttle body,,,no gas
ive had the rock in h/i,,,,ive bypassed before,,,with blower mine has no coating on rotors but has 306k?????as with engine electronics,,,except just doing coils for bucking..
any other no start problem i had was valve train,,,compression test ....
good one....problems i had that just appeared out of no where...fuel shut off switch in trunk,,,air inlet tube disconnected from throttle body,,,no gas
ive had the rock in h/i,,,,ive bypassed before,,,with blower mine has no coating on rotors but has 306k?????as with engine electronics,,,except just doing coils for bucking..
any other no start problem i had was valve train,,,compression test ....
My brothers L did this once when it was really low in H/E coolant. L's are bad about eating it. Anyway it wouls screech like that. We'd fill it up and it would go away after a few. never had any starting problems.
When you say it wont start. It ust turns over like normal or is it really sluggish?
When you say it wont start. It ust turns over like normal or is it really sluggish?
When you are doing the WOT method I described it should not start, you are intentionally cutting the pump. We call this "clearing out." After about 15-20 seconds of clearing it out then you try and start it normally.
so the car is cranking, its just not starting....right? like...when you turn the key....it doesnt just go "click", and thats it....does it?
also eventually you are going to drain the battery from constantly cranking on it, trying to start it...so keep that it mind. and when the battery DOES drain, the car will no longer turn over/crank when you turn the key. it will only make a "click" noise. hopefully that isnt what it is doing right now.
Battery is fine. I checked it. I had a jump box with me just in case.
As for the sound, I'm working on getting video (and pics) up now. Give me a good 10-15 minutes and I will have them up.
Here are pictures of the DRIVERS side spark plugs. I will post them starting with the plug closest to the front of the car and then work my way toward the firewall.
You can see some liquid on them and some crud. Does the dark color tell you anything? Is that a normal color...keep in mind they have been in there a long time.
And is it me or is the gap huge? Over time that is normal, correct? Wouldn't cause it to not start though, would it??
Just an fyi, that part that looks like oil was actually dry and hard. I wiped it and nothing happened (didn't wipe off).
Oil in throttle body and tube.
Here are the videos...
Oil in throttle body.
I need a catch can.
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Here I'm trying to start the car normally. This was after I checked the 4 driver side spark plugs and before I noticed oil in the TB. At this point, the car was sitting for about 20 hours.
Audio kind of sucks on this video. The first time I try to start it, that quick pop you hear around 10 seconds, sounded like the car was just about to turn over.
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In this video, the first time I am trying to start it (that last 20 seconds or so), I have my foot on the gas pedal so it's WOT. Doing this because of the suggested advice in post #27 above.
The 3 times after that, I'm trying to start the car normally (no foot on gas pedal).
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You can see some liquid on them and some crud. Does the dark color tell you anything? Is that a normal color...keep in mind they have been in there a long time.
And is it me or is the gap huge? Over time that is normal, correct? Wouldn't cause it to not start though, would it??
Just an fyi, that part that looks like oil was actually dry and hard. I wiped it and nothing happened (didn't wipe off).
Oil in throttle body and tube.
Here are the videos...
Oil in throttle body.
I need a catch can.[youtube_browser]vYjIjwv394k[/youtube_browser]
Here I'm trying to start the car normally. This was after I checked the 4 driver side spark plugs and before I noticed oil in the TB. At this point, the car was sitting for about 20 hours.
Audio kind of sucks on this video. The first time I try to start it, that quick pop you hear around 10 seconds, sounded like the car was just about to turn over.
[youtube_browser]gSIA6v457ek[/youtube_browser]
In this video, the first time I am trying to start it (that last 20 seconds or so), I have my foot on the gas pedal so it's WOT. Doing this because of the suggested advice in post #27 above.
The 3 times after that, I'm trying to start the car normally (no foot on gas pedal).
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The oil in the intake tube almost looks a little milky. I've had oil in my tb and intake before. Looked extremely dark though.
Yeah the oil in the intake almost looks like it may be mixed with something..
Yeah, it does look a little milky. No milky look when I checked the dipstick, no milky substance under the engine coolant cap, or under the IC cap (then again, that had no coolant in it for who knows how long).
Wouldn't it be milky when I checked the dipstick?
What does this mean? Head gasket? Something else?
You sure thats not coolant? Have you smelled it? I ask because it looks like coolant mixed with the normal oil residue thats in the intake.
If its oil you popped that engine. Judging by that really white spark plug itmustve leaned out.
Also. It could be the camera angle but those gaps look WAY too big imo.
If its oil you popped that engine. Judging by that really white spark plug itmustve leaned out.
Also. It could be the camera angle but those gaps look WAY too big imo.
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