are the gears recommended even though I plan to turbo charge?
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cobra cams install
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Why wouldn't they be? You're still gonna want to degree the cams with or without the turbo.
I'm still on the fence about the cam install. I have a set of 96 cams sitting on the floor in the garage. The install is straight forward, I just don't want to mess with degreeing them.
degreeing the cams is important on any combo, FI or n/a. Advancing the intake cams on a turbo combo will result in more preboost power, and quicker spooiling, and more peak power.
Why would you not want to degree them? Why install parts that will boost power but not get the most out of them by not degreeing?
ya with the tune in the car pulls harder than before but I still wish I would have took the time to degree the cams being that they make that much more power and there is that much slop in the timing chaine system. Ill pry do it next summer though.
i just ordered everything gears and degreeing kit :beer:
nickmckinney
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You don't have to degree the cams to gain power. Many have installed these cams without degreeing them and gain hp and tq. I put them in mine without degreeing them and I can tell a huge difference in mid range and topend power. These cams quickly become a big investment when you have to buy gears, bolts degree kits and the cams. IMO throw them in strait up see what you gain if your car has decent tq already you'll be ok the people who gain big tq numbers from degreeing are the ones who lacked tq to begin with. Nasvt knows his crap and I'm not trying to discredit him.
Below are three combos with "undegreed", not advanced, cobra intake cams. There is nothing wrong with just aligning the dots as you can see in the graphs. Advancing/degreeing them will bring up midrange hp/tq a lot and increase peak power a little.
Here is a before and after (not degreed, degreed): stock intake and exhaust manifolds. the blue lines show the advanced/degreed power output:
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Here is a before and after (not degreed, degreed): stock intake and exhaust manifolds. the blue lines show the advanced/degreed power output:
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how much power do cobra cams put down on a mach 1?
edit: I just saw the graph above.
edit: I just saw the graph above.
Just an estimate what a good shop would charge to install cobra cams...anyone???
I was quoted 1800.00 for labor :shrug:
pm modularspeed, he knows of a shop in your area that will do it cheaper.
:thumbsup: that's good to know.,., I have yet to talk myself into that lol
Now that I think about it,., not that it would be much diff, but they were also installing a clutch while engine was out :shrug:
I'm getting ready to put my long block together as I had the shortblock forged. I know the 98 cobra cams required a 12mm x 1.5 bolt http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ARP-256-1001/.The regular exhaust cam for the 03 mach 1 was a 10mm x 1.5 so would this be it? ARP 251-1002 - ARP Cam Bolt Kits - Overview - SummitRacing.com
OP, did you ever run the car at the track?
Just did this install. I removed the 4 bolts that hold the whole booster to the firewall and got the valve cover out. A real pain that way. Also you don't need to remove the exhaust side bolt. I just used a flat head on the tensioner had a buddy hold it down slipped the cam out and the 98 one in.
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