L&M intake cam numbers?

[SixPak]

I did not buy any, and was not charged for any. I have worked on overhead cammed engines in the past, albeit not a coyote, and never had to replace the cap bolts.
Maybe someone else can chime in on this, first I have heard of this.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

Comp wrote a camshaft install PDF and says replacing the cap bolts is needed, but I checked with Shaun/L&M and they say its not a necessity.

 

[oldbones]

I am being a bean counter here, but has anyone gotten away with not replacing all 40 camshaft cap bolts during an install?

I never replaced mine when I did my exhaust cams, but probably will next time I pop the motor opened.

 

[noldevin]

I am being a bean counter here, but has anyone gotten away with not replacing all 40 camshaft cap bolts during an install?

Are you willing to potentially break one and have to wait for a replacement?
Or worse, have it cause a problem after the install?

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

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[Jumpmaster2015]

Are you willing to potentially break one and have to wait for a replacement?
Or worse, have it cause a problem after the install?

My tuner's word, and engine builder's word, is gold to me.

 

[Shaun@AED]

Torque to yield bolts can only be torqued so many times before they need to be replaced. Over torquing and you need to replace immediately.

Ford says Torque to Yield bolts can be properly torqued (no over torque) up to 7 times. These bolts can be re-torqued up to 4 times during engine machining/ assembly, which leaves the aftermarket 3 re-torques before the bolts should be replaced.

If you are concerned I would not hesitate to replace them, these bolts are cheap.

During my Mod Motor engine building days I would run across a bolt or 2 that needed to be replaced. With experienced hands you can feel the bolts stretching when they are about to give out.

 

[assasinator]

Honestly changing cams is easier than headers. These are free revving. You can't hurt them. Just follow directions. I had to change exhaust springs for the baby Cj's. You don't even have to do that. I tried to pay someone to do mine and couldn't get anyone to call me back. I've built plenty of engines in general and modulars since I bought my 96gt. It's not that bad.

 

[assasinator]

I am being a bean counter here, but has anyone gotten away with not replacing all 40 camshaft cap bolts during an install?

I didn't change any of the cam cap bolts. Never have. Now the phaser bolts are a different story. I changed them to ARP bolts that simply torque.

 

[oldbones]

I agree cams aren't too bad, the spring's locks suck a bit, but are just time consuming.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

Torque to yield bolts can only be torqued so many times before they need to be replaced. Over torquing and you need to replace immediately.

Ford says Torque to Yield bolts can be properly torqued (no over torque) up to 7 times. These bolts can be re-torqued up to 4 times during engine machining/ assembly, which leaves the aftermarket 3 re-torques before the bolts should be replaced.

If you are concerned I would not hesitate to replace them, these bolts are cheap.

During my Mod Motor engine building days I would run across a bolt or 2 that needed to be replaced. With experienced hands you can feel the bolts stretching when they are about to give out.

The dealer local to the shop wanted 7 dollars a piece for cap bolts, for a total of 300 plus dollars, including the phaser bolts. I am going with the phaser bolts only, and can replace stressed cap bolts as needed. I did some research and this guy has a great reputation and his confidence truly inspires me. I will tell him about the TTY cap bolts.

Thanks for all the info everyone, this truly is going to be an awesome week.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

Bummer! The shop owner's performancr install guy had a hernia. I am rescheduled for 27DEC. More to come

 

[sur_real1]

TMS?

 

[assasinator]

During my Mod Motor engine building days I would run across a bolt or 2 that needed to be replaced. With experienced hands you can feel the bolts stretching when they are about to give out.

Nice to talk to you on the phone a few days ago. I'm tempted to buy these cams every day. Gotta wait just a bit.

It's also good to know my torque and power is low without the baby Cj cams swept. I want 500 on a Dynojet before I change to 15+ heads.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

Nice to talk to you on the phone a few days ago. I'm tempted to buy these cams every day. Gotta wait just a bit.

It's also good to know my torque and power is low without the baby Cj cams swept. I want 500 on a Dynojet before I change to 15+ heads.

I am hoping to get close to 500 but I probably wont hit that number with factory headers. I refuse to swap them so it is what it is. Hopefully ill have some good numbers to post on here so that people will buy these camshafts! If it works out i will have saved 500 dollars opposed to spending 1500 on the 4 comp cams.

 

[assasinator]

I am hoping to get close to 500 but I probably wont hit that number with factory headers. I refuse to swap them so it is what it is. Hopefully ill have some good numbers to post on here so that people will buy these camshafts! If it works out i will have saved 500 dollars opposed to spending 1500 on the 4 comp cams.

Fortunately for me I bought the baby Cj cams and installed them. These intake cams and s few more mids will get me past 500rwhp no problem.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

Fortunately for me I bought the baby Cj cams and installed them. These intake cams and s few more mids will get me past 500rwhp no problem.

I am installing the baby CJs as well. Did your exhaust volume increase at all?

 

[assasinator]

No same volume. I have roush and full exhaust. Its loud as hell anyway.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

No same volume. I have roush and full exhaust. Its loud as hell anyway.

Yeah, maybe you were already too loud to notice. I have the FRPP sport ABs, which are similar to the GT500s, with no cats or resonators and 3" piping. It is a tad quiet, so a small increase in volume from the extra exhaust flow would be cool.

 

[Jumpmaster2015]

The car is having the oil pump gears put on right now, so I should have some good info for you guys soon!