we finally did it and top end LETS JUST TAKE A WILD GUESS....he pulled so hard on me like 4 cars immediately from 70 roll....then i want to go from a 30 roll maybe i can get him on the bottom end so i get spooled up and we punch it on the honk he jumped 2 cars and just stayed there for the entire race....you can all call me rice but i have 325 hp and he has what like 390 so it worked out for him.....FIRST REAL WHOOPIN BY A DOMESTIC