So from looking through this thread I have found that Ford pimp handed some people, mods that make your car sound faster are "rice", using others value files are BAD (really in this day and age?) and that the Internet grammar Nazis are still in full force. SWEET! So anyways for those that do want the tune my guess is you will pay for it when someone nuts up and starts selling it again because they will label it as a black market tune LMAO.
Ghost Cam Idle Tune - 2011 Mustang GT 5.0L 4V - Bama Custom Tuning Preview
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there are people still selling it
Apparently.....
All I know is this tune has gotten me laid 3 times since I installed it....for that, I thank Jon Lund! :lol1:
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AMChrisRose
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Yaaay, saga over! We started working on a tune based off of the parameters we had access to. When we got a value file for it and it stalled I called Jon to see if he had any idea why it was stalling and on the hunch that there may be more parameters that were missing. He confirmed and also confirmed the value file was based off of his work. Ford asked him solely to stop selling the tune, that's the end of the story.
If anyone is still selling this tune, it's a version that will have driveability problems. This is 100% why we never released it. The parameters aren't going to happen either way, at this point. Even if it were the case, we'll probably still hold off on it.
If anyone is still selling this tune, it's a version that will have driveability problems. This is 100% why we never released it. The parameters aren't going to happen either way, at this point. Even if it were the case, we'll probably still hold off on it.
Apparently.....
All I know is this tune has gotten me laid 3 times since I installed it....for that, I thank Jon Lund! :lol1:
ROFL!!!! :banana: :rockon:
SicShelby09
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Thats not correct at all. Man I hate your company. Call the guys over at torq, their version is still forsale and it was home grown from their tuner. And its cheaper from them and works as advertised.
AMChrisRose
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Well I'm sorry to hear that you're not fond of us. As stated before, we're not hear to argue, but put closure on the issue. I know Paul from Torq personally. He, too, is using SCT software. I am willing to bet even he wouldn't argue that there are parameters missing for driveability.
If there's anything AmericanMuscle can do, let us know. It's very rare we get someone who hates our company, and we don't want it that way.
Thanks!
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I guess I’m still unsure of why Lund was able to offer this tune with driveability, and you and other tuners aren’t? If he figured it out on his own, then doesn’t that mean you’ve just gotta keep digging harder?
His supposedly did/does not have the drivability issues because he has the missing tables. And as soon as the next big company starts offering this they're gonna get the same call from Ford. I honestly don't understand why Ford is so upset about it in the first place.
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Because it makes their trac key look obselete. Why buy the trac key when you can purchase a $400 tuner with custom loaded tunes that do exactly the same thing?
30K car with $400 mod :thumbsup:
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45K car with whatever the premium is for the track key. :mj:
Ford is upset because Gt 5.0L's will be running around the dealership sounding better than boss 302's using the trac key. :banana:
LMMFAO!!!!!!!!!!! This is funny.
Some tuners rely on VALUE FILES and others can actually TUNE.
Some tuners rely on VALUE FILES and others can actually TUNE.
If you are going to give someone a hard time for misspelling something you should probably use proper grammar while doing it.
Maybe you should figure out the difference between they're, there and their too:nono:
Honestly who really cares. Jon Lund is probably one of the best tuners around. I would believe him over anyone else.
AMChrisRose
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Jon has access to things that even the aftermarket custom tuning software companies do not. That's how he has access and nobody else does.
We started working on a Ghost Cams idle tune based off of the parameters we had access to in our software. We attempted to do it from scratch and ended up having stalling issues. We were given a value file, not even seeking one out but just inquiring about it in the industry. We typically don't use value files, but they sent it to us to try. The value file had the same results as our initial attempts. I called Jon Lund (as a friend) to see if he had any idea why it was stalling and on the hunch that there may be more parameters that were missing from the software to control idle. He confirmed parameters WERE missing and also confirmed the value file was based off of his work.
All of our tunes are written on a Dynojet 224xLC in-house as well as tested/developed on the Streets of Malvern, PA and local tracks. We have access to 165,000 square foot of nothing but Mustang parts for our Bama specialists to test on with any of our 9 company Mustangs, which they do on a regular basis. Our dyno is running 5-6 days a week!
We also have over 29 Mustangs owned by employees that regularly get random accuracy tested with our mail-order files. Being SCT's largest dealer in the world, we get a TON of feedback on our tunes (datalogs, dyno charts, etc.). We focus and specialize in Mustangs and know the PCMs as well as any of the competition. We have a 10-second automatic 2011 GT, one of the fastest in the country for its' mods and you can check out our videos on our YouTube page!
We write each individual tune based on the modifications, pcm code, octane and requested tune that the user submits. We do not stock an "inventory" of pre-fabbed or "canned tunes". I hope this clears everything up!
We started working on a Ghost Cams idle tune based off of the parameters we had access to in our software. We attempted to do it from scratch and ended up having stalling issues. We were given a value file, not even seeking one out but just inquiring about it in the industry. We typically don't use value files, but they sent it to us to try. The value file had the same results as our initial attempts. I called Jon Lund (as a friend) to see if he had any idea why it was stalling and on the hunch that there may be more parameters that were missing from the software to control idle. He confirmed parameters WERE missing and also confirmed the value file was based off of his work.
All of our tunes are written on a Dynojet 224xLC in-house as well as tested/developed on the Streets of Malvern, PA and local tracks. We have access to 165,000 square foot of nothing but Mustang parts for our Bama specialists to test on with any of our 9 company Mustangs, which they do on a regular basis. Our dyno is running 5-6 days a week!
We also have over 29 Mustangs owned by employees that regularly get random accuracy tested with our mail-order files. Being SCT's largest dealer in the world, we get a TON of feedback on our tunes (datalogs, dyno charts, etc.). We focus and specialize in Mustangs and know the PCMs as well as any of the competition. We have a 10-second automatic 2011 GT, one of the fastest in the country for its' mods and you can check out our videos on our YouTube page!
We write each individual tune based on the modifications, pcm code, octane and requested tune that the user submits. We do not stock an "inventory" of pre-fabbed or "canned tunes". I hope this clears everything up!
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Anyone looking to buy a Boss would NOT consider this a substitute. There's no way in hell they're buying the Boss just for the sound that comes with the Red key. The Boss has SOOO much more for that price tag. And the Red key is actually LESS than $400 as far as I know. I think it's only a $200 add on.
I don't think Ford has any right to try and stop the aftermarket from making these tunes unless the files were stolen from the Boss ECU and I don't believe that's the case. Nonetheless, I can see why it wouldn't be worth it for Lund to sell the tunes. He no doubt has relationships with Ford that he doesn't want to ruin.
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It's a $302 add-on.
an intake manifold, and stripe kit with forged pistons and soem suspension? yeaaaa thats really worth the extra 15K
im sorry but a midpipe, intake, tuned GT will wipe the floor with the boss on the straight away and throw a griggs suspenion on the GT for under 4K and youll be dancing around the Boss in the corners
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