JLT CAI for Roush TVS

[Tucker]

And that because you deal with AED and he's the only one I've seen do that.

Stay tuned for the install video to show you in detail how a JLT Big Air in installed since it's so difficult

 

[mebcop]

And that because you deal with AED and he's the only one I've seen do that.

Stay tuned for the install video to show you in detail how a JLT Big Air in installed since it's so difficult

Ya, call your customers idiots... smart

Other vendors should stop carrying this guys products...

 

[hand-filer]

Looking at the pictures you can see that the Roush assembly has a 3 ribbed bellows behind the MAF tube. It would be reasonable to assume that this is there to take up the movement of the engine when the drivetrain is under load.
I dont see any provision for movement on the JLT unit. I wonder if this might be the cause of the filters pulling off the tube?
Not a bash, just an observation.

 

[Tucker]

Ya, call your customers idiots... smart

Other vendors should stop carrying this guys products...

Dude, give it a rest already :bored:

No one called anyone an idiot or a liar or any of the thing you guys claim here.

Your here going round and around with me about your kit and you can't even post pictures of the problem.

I post pictures and video and offer to do an install video and you just keep attacking me without backing up the issues you claim to have.

Good lord!

I've been through this internet BS a time or two.
I know my product and so does thousands of others.

You think this is a common issue, but we sell thousands, not 10's, 20's or hundreds, thousands.

The 3 here, trying to make it sound like 20 are in the minority.

I can only say I'll help if you let me so many times.

Later and enjoy the rest of your day. :beer:

 

[BMR Tech]

I would like to add, we did have a small issue fitting our JLT intake to our VMP TVS.

I was in contact with both Jay and Justin - who both are VERY good at responding....and ensuring the customer is taken care of. This is why I and BMR will continue to use both companies on all of our Ford Projects, as well as my personal cars (I have VMP TVS and JLT on my personal car)

Anyhow, I did have a small fitment issue with our 2011 (VMP/JLT).

I still, am not 100% sure why we had our issue - but I can say that Justin/Jay were there every step of the way, and Jay even sent me some parts overnight, to get it squared away.

I am not quite sure what the details are, in terms of the issues people have with the filter. We have had the JLT installed on our TVS, for over a year now. We drive it every day of the week, and have made a lot of track passes with it, and the filter has not popped off one time.

 

[mebcop]

Looking at the pictures you can see that the Roush assembly has a 3 ribbed bellows behind the MAF tube. It would be reasonable to assume that this is there to take up the movement of the engine when the drivetrain is under load.
I dont see any provision for movement on the JLT unit. I wonder if this might be the cause of the filters pulling off the tube?
Not a bash, just an observation.

That's exactly what I was thinking. You mount a 12" (not accurate, just making a point) filter to a motor that rocks back and forth, and then shove it in a 12.0001" spot that doesn't move with the motor, and then don't believe people when they say they have issues.

 

[mebcop]

Dude, give it a rest already :bored:

No one called anyone an idiot or a liar or any of the thing you guys claim here.

Your here going round and around with me about your kit and you can't even post pictures of the problem.

I post pictures and video and offer to do an install video and you just keep attacking me without backing up the issues you claim to have.

Good lord!

I've been through this internet BS a time or two.
I know my product and so does thousands of others.

You think this is a common issue, but we sell thousands, not 10's, 20's or hundreds, thousands.

The 3 here, trying to make it sound like 20 are in the minority.

I can only say I'll help if you let me so many times.

Later and enjoy the rest of your day. :beer:

what exactly do you want me to take a picture of?????? It's something that happens over time while driving. And I DID give you a chance to fix my issue. We've discussed this before, obviously you don't remember. BMR, I'm not surprised at all he took care of your issue immediately, you're BMR.

And AGAIN... MY CAR IS IN STORAGE! It's 12/10 and I live in NY.


BTW: Has anyone noticed that the filter mounts differently in every pic posted in this thread? Some, the clamp is inside the hole on the shroud, and others, the clamp is an inch past the shroud. If mine would actually stick through the hole in the shroud that far, I wouldn't have that problem, but with the coupler and intake tube I have there is no way it will.

 

[BMR Tech]

mebcop, in defense of what you stated about BMR, I understand that - I promise.

That said, I have been using JLT since he first released his intakes many years ago. Honestly, I have always received the same treatment. I know he may not want me to post this, but even the times I have needed "one-off" configurations, etc, that I knew would be a PITA for them to do - Jay and Lisa bent over backwards to provide me with whatever I needed. Heck, years ago they even sent me a free heat-shield because I lost mine for my old Cobra.

Anyhow, like I stated....we don't have any issues with our filter popping off. Our car has made as many or more passes with a JLT intake, as any.

 

[SC_Terminator]

And that because you deal with AED and he's the only one I've seen do that.

Stay tuned for the install video to show you in detail how a JLT Big Air in installed since it's so difficult

I am up for watching the video....just make sure it is the plastic install and not the CF one....

I know they come from the same design, but the plastic one is the one lots seem to be having issues with the filter staying on....

 

[mebcop]

mebcop, in defense of what you stated about BMR, I understand that - I promise.

That said, I have been using JLT since he first released his intakes many years ago. Honestly, I have always received the same treatment. I know he may not want me to post this, but even the times I have needed "one-off" configurations, etc, that I knew would be a PITA for them to do - Jay and Lisa bent over backwards to provide me with whatever I needed. Heck, years ago they even sent me a free heat-shield because I lost mine for my old Cobra.

Anyhow, like I stated....we don't have any issues with our filter popping off. Our car has made as many or more passes with a JLT intake, as any.

I believe you. I believe the people who don't have issues. But he doesn't believe the people who DO have issues. He treats people like they're dumb with his comments. His advice to me before was ways to make my filter "stickier" so it wouldn't push off as easily. That doesn't fix the issue. My tube is pulled out away from the throttle body as far as the coupler will allow. My tube does not stick through the shroud far enough, and there is NO WAY to secure the filter to the tube without there being constant pressure on the bottom of the filter from the shroud, pushing the filter off the tube. Whether it's too short of a tube, or whatever the reason, I am not an idiot. Neither are most of the other people having this issue. Maybe only 3 are posting here about it, but I PERSONALLY know many more that go to the track with me that have the SAME issue. Degrading comments towards customers, about how "easy" the install is and not being able to understand why people cant get it right are unacceptable in my book. I couldn't imagine BMR treating their customers like this. It's not the problem with the intake, its how he handles himself.

 

[Tucker]

I would like to add, we did have a small issue fitting our JLT intake to our VMP TVS.

I was in contact with both Jay and Justin - who both are VERY good at responding....and ensuring the customer is taken care of. This is why I and BMR will continue to use both companies on all of our Ford Projects, as well as my personal cars (I have VMP TVS and JLT on my personal car)

Anyhow, I did have a small fitment issue with our 2011 (VMP/JLT).

I still, am not 100% sure why we had our issue - but I can say that Justin/Jay were there every step of the way, and Jay even sent me some parts overnight, to get it squared away.

I am not quite sure what the details are, in terms of the issues people have with the filter. We have had the JLT installed on our TVS, for over a year now. We drive it every day of the week, and have made a lot of track passes with it, and the filter has not popped off one time.

Thanks for posting, but to say your not really sure what the issues was is odd...

Here are the pics you sent me:

The bottom pic is your Elbow overlapped on my car showing the elbow angled toward the shock tower.
The position of the tube shows this as well.
This is the picture I sent you showing the correct position

This is why they had to include longer 3" couplers to compensate for the angle, but unfortunately it makes us look bad, not the elbow.

And the tube is free to move with the engine, it's not hard mounted.

 

[BMR Tech]

Jay, I understand that.

I just don't understand exactly what the issue is - is all I was implying.

It appears that the elbow placed the intake tube outward too much, but again, I am not 100% sure, simply because we do not have experience with any other combination of parts. If I used the standard Roush Elbow/Plenum - then swapped to the VMP and had the issue (hands on, personally) then I would post, that that is/was the issue.

I am not really concerned about it, as everything works flawlessly. I will leave the fine details to you and Justin. Our car runs like a raped ape, reliably, and consistently, that's what I care about.

 

[BMR Tech]

And again, thank you for going out of your way to correct the initial installation issue that we had. Regardless of it not being an issue of your own, you went out of your way to ensure everything would work - that says volumes in my eyes.

 

[grnenvy]

Hmm

JLT Intake, 2-3lbs more, TB, Elbow, ported inlet on blower and a retune netted me 100 rwhp. It's not so hard to believe?

I can say we definitely didn't see 100 hp gains with our testing. Congrats though, I'm sure your car feels like a beast now:rockon:

 

[stang8psi]

I have no bone in this fight because I don't have a roush 2.3 or a vmp, but I do own a regular JLT intake and I am not to fond of the fit, but it hasn't come off and it works..

But the pictures posted buy people in this thread I have seen that the rad covers on most have and are cut to make the intake fit.. And some have small silicone couplers at the throttle body while some others have longer ones.. Maybe If it already isn't included in the kits provide a few size (length) couplers so the installer can choose what fits best? :shrug:

And another outside suggestion is possibly maybe the hole or opening on the shroud be opened more so the filter once installed has some room to maneuver a bit when the engine moves some under acceleration? :shrug: Again I have no bone in this fight... just some possible suggestions!

 

[Coonsnake]

JLT Intake, 2-3lbs more, TB, Elbow, ported inlet on blower and a retune netted me 100 rwhp. It's not so hard to believe?

Didn't say it was hard to believe.... just not near the power we saw from our testing. Our Roush inlet was not port matched, so maybe a port job is what we need next:burnout:

 

[Tucker]

But the pictures posted buy people in this thread I have seen that the rad covers on most have and are cut to make the intake fit.. And some have small silicone couplers at the throttle body while some others have longer ones.. Maybe If it already isn't included in the kits provide a few size (length) couplers so the installer can choose what fits best? :shrug:

Actually only the Evo car is cut, none of the other pics are trimmed.

Also, only the BMR car has the longer coupler and that's due to the VMP elbow.

 

[stang8psi]

well there is missing material here for it to fit.. IE: trimmed

 

[spdracr0]

Are the tubes for a 2011 TVS 5.0 and a 2009 gt500 the same? The black plastic ones? Just wondering??

 

[mebcop]

Yes Stang8psi, most of the guys I know with them have trimmed their rad covers too. He's just being difficult.